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Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:50 pm
Is there a better build up and release than Rosetta from 7:04 to where it lets go at 8:37?

And adding a video of John Kew killing it, doing stick flips 9 minutes in after the hard section. Not even a professional drummer, he an Archeologist or some shite.


Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:26 pm to
Having seen them multiple times live, the only explanation I have is that Danny Carey is an octopus wearing human skin. He's insanely good at playing a lot without overplaying.

Most of their stuff isn't even hard to play IF you can play the weird arse time they use.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:22 am to
I thought I was gonna learn spanish

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Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Is there a better build up and release than Rosetta from 7:04 to where it lets go at 8:37?
Identical to all Tool trash noise.

I will never understand the fetish for this act. Does it depend on drug use while listening to it?
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5151 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

I will never understand the fetish for this act.


Ah, the whole, I'm the man cause I hate on Tool routine.

But yeah Rosetta sounds identical to The Grudge, Aenima, Pushit, Flood, Lateralus.

It's so hard to find how people like a band this interesting and original. Crazy thought dude.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:15 pm to
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It's so hard to find how people like a band this interesting and original. Crazy thought dude.
It all comes off as the same mastubatory nonsense.

My question is a real one: I know they are super into psychedelics, so are drugs a key component to finding magic in showing off a bunch of different time signatures?
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5151 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:16 pm to
Not sure but it does seem you came back and upvoted your previous post when you made this reply.

Well at least you have 1 person that agrees with you.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:19 pm to
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Not sure but it does seem you came back and upvoted your previous post when you made this reply.
nah
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83935 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:20 pm to
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I know they are super into psychedelics


Who is?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:21 pm to
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Who is?
Tool. I thought all the artwork (doesn't Alex Gray literally do some of it) and the music itself was very psychedelic-inflected.

From Gemini, so take it for what it's worth:

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The connection between Tool’s music and psychedelics is not just incidental—it is foundational. The band treats psychedelics not merely as a recreational pastime but as a philosophical "tool" (hence the name) for deconstructing reality, exploring consciousness, and evolving the self.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83935 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Tool. I thought all the artwork (doesn't Alex Gray literally do some of it) and the music itself was very psychedelic-inflected.


Gray didn't come around until Lateralus album... And outside of Maynard talking about his Ayahuseca experience around the Aenima timeframe and him considering moving to Arizona, I've never heard him or any of the others talk about drugs, promote them, or tie them to their music.

quote:

The connection between Tool’s music and psychedelics is not just incidental—it is foundational. The band treats psychedelics not merely as a recreational pastime but as a philosophical "tool" (hence the name) for deconstructing reality, exploring consciousness, and evolving the self


Here is the summary that comes up on Tool

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In summary, while their music may be perceived as fitting the psychedelic, progressive, or artistic, and rock genres, Tool does not have a public reputation as a band that uses or promotes drugs.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Here is the summary that comes up on Tool
Summary from where?

From Claude:

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Tool has a well-documented relationship with psychedelics, particularly through their lyricist/vocalist Maynard James Keenan and guitarist Adam Jones.
Musical integration:
Their music explicitly explores psychedelic themes and consciousness expansion. Songs like "Third Eye," "Lateralus," and "Rosetta Stoned" directly reference or describe psychedelic experiences. The band has spoken about how these substances influenced their creative process and philosophical worldview.
Specific substances:

DMT - Referenced heavily, particularly in "Rosetta Stoned" which describes a DMT encounter
LSD - Bill Hicks (whose recordings they've sampled) was a major advocate, and his philosophy clearly influenced their work
Psilocybin - Referenced in various interviews and lyrics

Maynard's perspective:
He's discussed psychedelics as tools for breaking down ego and expanding perception, though he's also emphasized they're not recreational - he views them as serious, intentional practices for consciousness work. He's been relatively cautious publicly, acknowledging their value while not glorifying them.
Bill Hicks connection:
The late comedian Bill Hicks, who Tool sampled extensively (particularly on Ænima), was outspoken about psychedelics as consciousness-expanding tools. His philosophy deeply influenced the band's worldview about breaking free from societal conditioning.
Sacred geometry and visuals:
Alex Grey's artwork for their albums (particularly Lateralus and 10,000 Days) is explicitly psychedelic, drawing from Grey's own DMT and LSD experiences. The visual component is inseparable from the sonic one.



BTW, I never said Tool "promoted" drugs. I asked if being on drugs (specifically psychedelics) is somehow key to enjoying the music.
Posted by AU_RX
City of St George
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:31 pm to
Not necessarily. But not being a sanctimonious douche definitely helps.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7100 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:14 pm to
Rosetta Stoned is the retelling of a trip Bill Manspeaker (Green Jello / friend of the band) told them. They thought it was funny and made the song as a humorous retelling.

They’re into expanding your mind but not really open drug proponents (at least not outside of maybe earlier youthful references).

Al Jourgensen of Ministry claims early on he spiked a bottle of booze on tour with some hallucinogenic drug and their music evolved. I think the band mostly dismissed the story.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94983 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Identical to all Tool trash noise.

I will never understand the fetish for this act. Does it depend on drug use while listening to it?


Meh. I'm sober as a judge and I loved Tool from the first introduction. Now, can I say I love every stylistic choice they make? Certainly not. But, I could listen to dogs barking in front of that rhythm section (and that was true even back to Undertow when D'Amour was on bass).

I can't reconcile someone who enjoys heavy music and not being able to find something in Tool's catalogue to be great. Maybe you're just old, my guy?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83935 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 7:05 am to
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Rosetta Stoned is the retelling of a trip Bill Manspeaker (Green Jello / friend of the band) told them.


Fun fact, Maynards first "gold record" was as part of Green Jello and singing "not by the hair on my chinny chin chin".
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 8:56 am to
I'm pretty sure I still have a pressing of that before they were made to change the name to Green Jelly.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Maybe you're just old, my guy
Maybe, although not older than you?

quote:

I can't reconcile someone who enjoys heavy music and not being able to find something in Tool's catalogue to be great.
The only song I would ever intentionally listen to is Prison Sex.

Away from that, I find it boring, pretentious and without noteworthy melody.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94983 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Away from that, I find it boring, pretentious and without noteworthy melody.


The Pot?

Right in Two?

Invincible?

Eulogy?

46 & 2?

Lateralus?

The Grudge?

Pneuma?

Descending?

FFS some of the best heavy songs of the past 30 years...
This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38930 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

The Pot?
That's as generically Tool as any I could imagine.

I do kind of like A Perfect Circle, though.
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