Vanderbilt currently 15-0 and about to be ranked in the T10 in year two with Byington..

Is Vandy missing their best two players?
-tpk

Is that all we are missing? We lost to South Carolina at home as a -7.5 fav who doubled us up at half 50-25.

So McMahon gets another pass? He just needs one more year?

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So McMahon gets another pass? He just needs one more year?

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Eh, give him another two. He’s a nice guy.

Who is Byington, other than the current Vandy coach? What had he accomplished before Vandy that's notable?

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Who is Byington, other than the current Vandy coach?

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Took over a 9-23 team and has gone 35-13 & 10-10 in conference play at Vandy.

.. while we hold onto a coach who would have been fired at every other SEC team after 3 years.

I am mixed on McMahon…. Because of how we dealt with WW, LsU essentially got the death penalty. Then they dangled probation or further discipline over LSU for two years. Next we poor Boyed NIL. Probably correct at the time. Then you lose the two best players. Thomas only and you probably win both games. He is doomed. But he was dealt a pretty tough hand.

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I am mixed on McMahon

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mhc4tigers

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That’s because you’re a legitimately stupid person that embraces mediocrity in every facet of your life.

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LsU essentially got the death penalty.

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That loss of two (2) scholarships...over the course of 2 years...which didn't even have an effect because LSU used NIL money to pay a "walk on" scholarship player. I guess standards for the death penalty are getting pretty low.

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Next we poor Boyed NIL

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A narrative never mentioned....for nearly 3 years....until LSU was 2-10 in SEC play last year. Kim Mulkey has a high paid roster (relative to WBB). Do you think that is just because "LSU cares more about WBB"? Or that Kim engages with the donors and works her arse off to generate NIL funds?

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Then you lose the two best players.

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Getting injured has been the best thing that could have ever happened to Reed. He went from inconsistent part time starter to an LSU legend...by NOT playing.

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Thomas only and you probably win both games.

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Maybe. But when you've lost 75% of your SEC games there are NO givens.

As a coach, McMahon has somehow been able to combine the worst attributes of Trent Johnson and Johnny Jones. He's combined Johnson's complete lack of enthusiasm and unwillingness to work the donors with Jones' inability to coach at the SEC level.

You also forgot to mention additional though hand LSU delt him by NOT moving on after last season. Murray State would have hired McMahon back last offseason. That job is now filled for the foreseeable future. So when LSU finally does end this waste of time the poor guy won't have anywhere to land as a HC.

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“McMahon is underfunded!”


That was true.

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There's no actual evidence of that other than supposition and conjecture. But it is an easy excuse when you are looking for a cause for the losing other than being an inadequate coach.

But let's assume it IS true. Why doesn't McMahon have any fault in this? Kim Mulkey program has never been accused of being "underfunded". Her program is under the same athletic department at the same school. They use the same facilities. Is that the LSU AD simply decided they were going to give a large % of money to WBB and not MBB? Seems like an odd business decision given WBB, even with its success, is the single biggest money LOSING program in the entire AD.

Kim goes out an hustles for the money. She engages with the donors. That was the very first thing Wade did when he arrived. He built his donor base. He did the same thing at McNeese. Even Jones, while not a dynamic personality, worked the Dale Brown network he knew well.

Just like Trent Johnson, McMahon doesn't do any of that. At least to any significant degree. He's not out there busting arse to try to raise money. He's not agreeing to speak at dozens of companies in exchange for donations to is his program. Mulkey does that quite often. Wade did it too. AT BEST, McMahon sends an assistant coach (mostly David Patrick). The fact that Johnson and McMahon, collectively, have 4 of the worst seasons in the last 20 years of LSU basketball is NOT a coincidence.

You can't use the excuse of "no money" when you are unwilling to go shake the trees to get it.

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He’s a good coach.


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Can we say that with any strong sense of certainty? He certainly hasn't been good at LSU, so the only other metric to measure is his time at Murray St. He had a good record there...but so did the 6 coaches that preceded him. He also had the ONLY losing season the program had from 1988 - 2017 (nearly 30 years). He had a .697 career wining %. Great in the context of basketball at large. But that was only good enough to be THIRD among 6 HCs from 1995 - 2022. So was McMahon really that good of a coach? Or was he an average coach in a historically good mid-major program?

Honestly McMahon is fricking pathetic, no need to mince words. It’s embarrassing how much money we pay this guy to be so fricking terrible