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SIAP but how is Indiana so damn good?

Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by Former_5_Star
Member since Sep 2025
240 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am
looked at last two portal classes and they ranked in the 25-30 range. I didn’t bother to check High School recruiting as I know they aren’t a major player there.

So how are they curb stomping teams like Bama again?

It’s crazy.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
10893 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:47 am to
Have you seen their OL play?
Posted by Tigerd3
Member since Jun 2023
94 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:47 am to
They aren’t.
Most teams this year are average— everyone is beatable.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46561 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:49 am to
Partly because of a really good QB/RB

And LOS on both sides

Great HC

Lots of Jr’s and Sr’s
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51209 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:49 am to
Their 2 deep is almost entirely 4th and 5th year guys. A handful of special 3rd year talents.

That is overlooked this day and age, but experience still wins over young, raw talent.
Posted by Former_5_Star
Member since Sep 2025
240 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Have you seen their OL play?


Ok, so how tf is their OL so damn good. We had a line of all 4 and 5 stars and sucked donkey d**k.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65197 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:49 am to
I would say having a Heisman QB touching the ball on every play is a plus, but having that Defense, just special. Holding Bama to 3 points is a bigger deal imo…
Posted by ATLTiger7
Member since Dec 2019
125 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:50 am to
Very well coached team. The bigger question is how did it take Cignetti this long to become such a dominant force and how was he under the radar until his 60s?
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3906 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:54 am to
They win in the trenches with older classman with experience.
Posted by Former_5_Star
Member since Sep 2025
240 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:54 am to
agreed, another mystery. How did Cignetti become a football savant at age 60 something all of a sudden.

To those saying it’s because of their great line play, defense, etc, I get that. However, talent doesn’t matter?

They supposedly have none.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17380 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:55 am to
Good coaching, roster building, and dispersion of talent. I know everyone likes to defend Lane by saying you can’t win a national championship at a school like Ole Miss, but that’s likely not true anymore.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4077 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:59 am to
I’ve seen 4-5 of their games this year and came away impressed with their tackling each time. When they come up to make a play there is rarely a miss or a busted tackle. They get the guy to the ground.

I’m certain that the other position groups also do all of the litttle things well, which is a sign of good coaching. Put it all together and then combine it with effort and you have something special.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41891 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:59 am to
quote:

looked at last two portal classes and they ranked in the 25-30 range. I didn’t bother to check High School recruiting as I know they aren’t a major player there.


Because the ranking systems aren’t the gold standard everybody thinks they are..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298087 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:02 am to
Power, discipline, intelligence.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
43119 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:05 am to
Good coaching, keeping players for multiple seasons, and focusing on the trenches. Good lines make everyone else better.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34223 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:06 am to
quote:

The bigger question is how did it take Cignetti this long to become such a dominant force and how was he under the radar until his 60s?


I think it is because he has a bit of an odd/acerbic personality plus a degree of stubbornness. He's not an overly enthusiastic guy and has kind of a "you either care for me or not, I don't give a shite" attitude. Obviously, his personality/mindset works well as a HC...but it probably turned many off when he was trying to get to that spot.

He also didn't want to take the usual route to being a HC. He was on Saban's staff at Alabama from 07-11. He probably could have leveraged that into a non-power conf. OC job...which may have eventually led to a non-power conf. HC job. But he didn't want to be a coordinator. He only wanted to be a HC. No one in D-1 would hire him as a HC from being a position coach, so he took a HC job at a D-2 school.

He basically took the same path as a guy like Kalen Deboer did (D-2, G6 HC, power conf. HC). But whereas Deboer started that path at 30, Cignetti started when he was 50
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32622 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:07 am to
Yall still put stock into stars? That’s your first mistake lol
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2945 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:07 am to
development and time in system.

we have had the luxury of starting with more decorated stars labeled talent, but have failed at a bunch of positions to develop them beyond where they started relative to our opponents.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102018 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:08 am to
When you realize Indiana has the same number of wins vs Alabama that LSU does in the last 6 seasons.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:09 am to
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agreed, another mystery. How did Cignetti become a football savant at age 60 something all of a sudden.


He didn’t “just become one.” Just go look at his career. He was a career position coach, but after 4 years working under Nick Saban, he made the choice to go down levels to become a head coach, rather than try to get an OC gig and work up from there. That’s a much longer path to get yourself noticed, but it worked.

That path resulted in him learning how to be a successful head coach over 12 years at 3 different levels of football. He took over three losing programs and turned them around immediately. Just because nobody was noticing until he got to Indiana, the man has been a damn good coach for a long time.

I don’t think it’s an accident that Cignetti’s program looks a lot like ours did from 2000-2003. He obviously learned a lot from Saban in his time at Bama. The portal just allowed him to speed up the rebuild at Indiana over what was possible here in the 2000s.

Maybe they aren’t the same in overall talent level, but they are in how disciplined and tough they play. Right now, Indiana looks and plays the game like a 2010s coached Saban team.

Go back and listen to Saban’s quotes from last week about talking to his “golfing buddies” about Indiana who thought Bama would just roll over them. He broke it all down before the game. He knew exactly what he was looking at.

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