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0W-16 Weight motor oil? WTF

Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5122 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:33 am
Neighbor bought a new Subaru Outback and as I was checking it out I saw the oil spec is 0W-16. No way can that be good for longevity.

Both of my Mazdas and Truck take 5W-30 still, which I guess seems like heavy weight oil these days.
Posted by Pondyrosa
Member since Dec 2024
89 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:39 am to
The cars that take 0W will require thicker oil when the milage gets high
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
805 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:39 am to
Blame EPA standards and the manufacturers for fudging the numbers to improve mileage estimates. Several US manufacturers are having engines grenade due to insufficient oil viscosities.

Check with a trusted mechanic for his input, and run, don't walk, from 0 weight oil.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2939 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:41 am to
The new Camry takes 0w8.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25853 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:43 am to
Dodge 6.4 hemi takes 0w-40 had to start changing my own as it can be hit or miss if the quick lube places have it on hand
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
32193 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:43 am to
My Silverado takes 0w-20, looks like I'm pouring colored water into my engine...
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13551 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:46 am to
What happens if you just put in 5w-30 anyway?
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
2009 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:50 am to
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run, don't walk, from 0 weight oil


I've been using 0w20 in my Acura TLX since I got it in Aug 2017 and have 117,000 miles on it with no issues.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2353 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:51 am to
quote:

What happens if you just put in 5w-30 anyway?


not good things if i had to guess. lol.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8219 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:52 am to
Use the manufacturer recommended oil while under warranty, do not give them an easy out for not covering issues.

After that use what you are comfortable with or performs best... an engine oil analysis typically costs $40-50 and can tell you a lot.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6464 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:52 am to
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What happens if you just put in 5w-30 anyway?


Possibly void the warranty?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16728 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:52 am to
quote:

What happens if you just put in 5w-30 anyway?


Those engines have very tight tolerances. Thicker weight will not get into places that need it and will cause excessive wear.

After they get higher mileage and the engine has some wear a little thicker oil will be ok.
Posted by Pondyrosa
Member since Dec 2024
89 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:54 am to
I had a prius that was burning 0w20. I put 5w30 in and no issues. You can run bacon grease on a high milage vehicle and it will be fine
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
38033 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:54 am to
My ‘21 Lexus owner manual reads 5w-30 is acceptable, which I use in the summer
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
805 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I've been using 0w20 in my Acura TLX since I got it in Aug 2017 and have 117,000 miles on it with no issues.


I would imagine you change it religiously...that's the key. If you're not one of those who sticks to the change out schedule, 0 weight can be scary.

I just think that there comes a point of no return with trying to squeeze everything you can out of an engine, and in the case of GM's 6.0 issues - engineer's probably crossed that line. It seems a lot of the issue there is being traced back to too light a viscosity. Just my opinion.

ETA, sorry. meant 6.2.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43181 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:57 am to
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
38072 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:57 am to
Exactly.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6917 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:05 am to
0W-20: This oil flows extremely well in cold conditions, making it ideal for modern, fuel-efficient engines. “0W" in this oil number means the oil remains very thin in winter, ensuring easy starts and quick lubrication. The "20" in oil numbers indicates its thickness at high temperatures, which is suitable for newer engines designed for lower-viscosity oils.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5122 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:11 am to
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The "20" in oil numbers indicates its thickness at high temperatures, which is suitable for newer engines designed for lower-viscosity oils.


That part would be my concern. How quickly in the heat of the south would that 20 or 16 shear down to a 0 or 5? I'd be okay in NC, but I can't imagine a place like Arizona or Florida would be hospitable to that spec. You'd have to be on top of the maintenance schedule. I lot of folks I know just don't aren't up for it.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
38033 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:14 am to
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You'd have to be on top of the maintenance schedule. I lot of folks I know just don't aren't up for it.


100%

Most owners never read the owner’s manual either
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