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The only way to fix college football...
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:27 am
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:27 am
The P4 teams need to break away from the NCAA. NIL needs to be brought under control. The coaching carousel needs to stop.
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:32 am to northernvatiger
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NIL needs to be brought under control
I agree with everything but this.
Technically and legally, NIL is just players making their own money on their own time. Yes, we can all see through the bullshite, but you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
I do think we need more regulation for transfers and coaching contracts. Just do a “black Monday” thing or whatever the NFL does so everyone knows when coaching changes will happen. We pretty much do it with the transfer portal.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:38 am to StringedInstruments
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Yes, we can all see through the bullshite, but you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
So you don’t want any restrictions on NIL for this reason but it’s alright to regulate and restrict the portal and coaches ability to go and work wherever they want to whenever they want to? Do you see the hypocrisy? I do.
Frankly, CFB is out of control and I’m not sure it’s salvageable, especially if you want to get back to what I consider the good old days when players played as student-athletes and we cheered for our Alma maters.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:48 am to Deplorableinohio
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So you don’t want any restrictions on NIL for this reason but it’s alright to regulate and restrict the portal and coaches ability to go and work wherever they want to whenever they want to? Do you see the hypocrisy? I do.
It doesn’t matter what you want. It is a legal ruling that you can’t regulate or restrict NIL.
And yes, it’s hypocrisy, I guess. But there’s nothing in our economic or legal system that forbids hypocrisy based on personal feelings.
The NFL doesn’t allow for its coaches to move jobs whenever they want. That’s because that’s the rule they’ve set for their league and organizations. The NFL cannot tell any player that they can’t make money with side businesses outside of their NFL contract.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:54 am to Deplorableinohio
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Frankly, CFB is out of control and I’m not sure it’s salvageable, especially if you want to get back to what I consider the good old days when players played as student-athletes and we cheered for our Alma maters
That would require the same hypocrisy you recognized in the first paragraph. Why should universities who have mishandled billions over the years creating liberal wastelands of influence get a dime if the players dont? The education myth has long been recognized as what it is, a farce. Those degrees aren't worth shite. Damn sure not worth 100s of millions which universities bring in with football. If they had been more proactive about sharing money maybe the mess wouldnt be as bad as it is currently. Blame the greedy ones, the universities.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:58 am to Deplorableinohio
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Yes, we can all see through the bullshite, but you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
So you don’t want any restrictions on NIL for this reason but it’s alright to regulate and restrict the portal and coaches ability to go and work wherever they want to whenever they want to? Do you see the hypocrisy? I do.
Apples and oranges. Nothing in this scenario limits players or coaches from making money through their name, image, or likeness. Saban and Prime were making bank from AFLACK while coaching.
Ultimately, I think there will eventually be contractual obligations for players with exit clauses for both sides like we have with coaches now.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:05 am to northernvatiger
If they stop unlimited transfers NIL wouldn’t be such a problem.
Open free agency every year is the issue
Open free agency every year is the issue
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:12 am to StringedInstruments
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The NFL cannot tell any player that they can’t make money with side businesses outside of their NFL contract.
The nfl teams also have the ability to cut players. If a college gives a high school kid a boat load of money based on potential and they turn out to be a bust or even hurt there is no cutting them. Eventually this will all turn contractual.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:15 am to Jack Daniel
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If they stop unlimited transfers NIL wouldn’t be such a problem.
Exactly. If your top at your position in the country why not go to the portal every year and go to “highest bidder” or have your current school match the offer??
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:17 am to northernvatiger
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NIL needs to be brought under control.
How so?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:18 am to StringedInstruments
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The NFL cannot tell any player that they can’t make money with side businesses outside of their NFL contract.
This isn’t correct. If it was, every owner could very easily circumvent the salary cap.
I guess the NFL can’t prevent them from doing it, but the NFL could absolutely fire them for it. And were college players under employment agreements, they could be deemed ineligible under certain circumstances as well.
Do you, or whatever activist judge who made this ruling, think if an NFL player wanted to do an ad for ISIS, that the NFL shouldn’t be able to take any corrective action?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:19 am to StringedInstruments
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you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
Yeah no one has ever been arrested and jailed for selling or buying stuff the government doesn’t want them to buy or sell.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:21 am to TomRollTideRitter
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The NFL cannot tell any player that they can’t make money with side businesses
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This isn’t correct.
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I guess the NFL can’t prevent them from doing it
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:32 am to northernvatiger
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The P4 teams need to break away from the NCAA.
So no more March Madness or College World Series? Both are NCAA events.
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NIL needs to be brought under contro
How and why? Does it offend you kids are able to actually get paid their worth?
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The coaching carousel needs to stop.
and how exactly do you expect to accomplish this? You gonna convince fans at places like LSU it’s OK if the go 7-5 and don’t make the playoffs? Good luck with that. You could do as Saban suggests and change the calendar and push signing day and the portal back but the season ends around Thanksgiving and the post season starts a few weeks after will be hard to convince teams to go without a coach in place for 2 months if you wait until after the playoff endsPosted on 12/21/25 at 8:39 am to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
Top tier cuck poster
“Just let them get paid bro, really bro it won’t change anything bro, it’s just fair bro, don’t be so uncool about this bro!”
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:40 am to StringedInstruments
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but you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
If they want to participate within the rules of a private organization, you can. Only in America, courts and the government get to dictate to private organizations what rules and standards they must use.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:42 am to northernvatiger
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The P4 teams need to break away from the NCAA
That's going to happen I would think, in the next 10 years. I won't be shocked if it's by the end of the decade
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:44 am to StringedInstruments
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Technically and legally, NIL is just players making their own money on their own time. Yes, we can all see through the bullshite, but you can’t tell an American adult that they can’t make money.
I do think we need more regulation for transfers and coaching contracts. Just do a “black Monday” thing or whatever the NFL does so everyone knows when coaching changes will happen. We pretty much do it with the transfer portal.
You get it.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:48 am to TomRollTideRitter
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The NFL cannot tell any player that they can’t make money with side businesses outside of their NFL contract.
They actually can, they have contracts, they have collective bargaining so certain things like that can be agreed to by both sides before contracts and the CBA are signed.
Contracts are also why head coaches can’t just leave whenever they want for another job without compensation. Thats why Denver had to give the Saints draft picks to hire Sean Payton, he retired with time left on his contract. Assistants are allowed to leave for promotions of course but after their season ends. You could have language like that in college contracts theoretically but since there are 100s of jobs vs 32 it’s a lot harder to do. Just takes 1 school desperate enough to throw it off.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:51 am to StringedInstruments
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I do think we need more regulation for transfers and coaching contracts. Just do a “black Monday” thing or whatever the NFL does so everyone knows when coaching changes will happen. We pretty much do it with the transfer portal.
I completely agree with your position on NIL. But this statement here directly contradicts that. If we are going to practice the capitalistic freedom guaranteed to all fully emancipated Americans, then coaches should continue to be able to pile in the obscene amounts of money they are getting contracts for, and students who are athletes should have exactly and all of the same freedoms to transfer and participate in programs at public institutions that any other student has.
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