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G5 in Playoffs to Stay!
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:20 am
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:20 am
Folks. Greg Sankey was very transparent. The G5 has to have “access” or lawsuits will happen.
You can see they designed the playoff to function like a 10 team playoff as seeds 5 and 6 get rewarded with home games against a layup team instead of a bye week.
The only real games the first weekend are the 2 games with 4 at large bids (which the higher seeded home team lost both)
So bottom line, you need to be a Top 10 P5 school to get in, which most people probably think is plenty of teams (10 legit).
You can see they designed the playoff to function like a 10 team playoff as seeds 5 and 6 get rewarded with home games against a layup team instead of a bye week.
The only real games the first weekend are the 2 games with 4 at large bids (which the higher seeded home team lost both)
So bottom line, you need to be a Top 10 P5 school to get in, which most people probably think is plenty of teams (10 legit).
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:33 am to NorCali
I don't see what the big deal is.
I could see Bama making a run if they are able to get Indiana on a down day, but we basically know the class of the country this year is Ohio State/UGA/Indiana.
8-12 have almost zero shot. 5-7 need help. This isn't the NFL where the last seeded team can reasonably make a run. Bump JMU and Tulane for ND/BYU. They have a marginally better shot, sure, but it's not happening for them. They don't have the rosters.
We put Cinderellas in March Madness when they have no shot, but sometimes funny things happen and they make it to the Elite 8.
Just leave them in. It's more fun. It's better exposure for those schools as well.
I could see Bama making a run if they are able to get Indiana on a down day, but we basically know the class of the country this year is Ohio State/UGA/Indiana.
8-12 have almost zero shot. 5-7 need help. This isn't the NFL where the last seeded team can reasonably make a run. Bump JMU and Tulane for ND/BYU. They have a marginally better shot, sure, but it's not happening for them. They don't have the rosters.
We put Cinderellas in March Madness when they have no shot, but sometimes funny things happen and they make it to the Elite 8.
Just leave them in. It's more fun. It's better exposure for those schools as well.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:51 am to NorCali
Just needs to be a point system based on wins, points scored, points given up, and strength of schedule no matter who you play. Top 8 teams
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:02 am to NorCali
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The G5 has to have “access” or lawsuits will happen.
so let them happen
Here are the arguments:
1. G5 teams don't play big boy football all year long so- how did they earn a spot to play against the best 12 end of regular season?
2. The 2 G5 Teams got beat by a combined 48 points
3. Tulane already lost to Ole Miss by 35 points earlier in the year
4. These repeat games destroy fan interest around the country
5. Horrible reward for Oregon and Ole Miss fans to play teams they are so heavily favored by...It's the playoffs, it suppossed to be good vs. good
6. G5 teams are not ranked in the top 12... that's a problem
7. G5 have never won a national championship- ever, so why are we playing pretend and all this BS inclusive BS
8. ND bowed out of a bowl game because frankly they should be in the playoffs rather than watching Tulane get blown out again by Ole Miss
9. G5 is different- so treat it as such
10. this is stupid
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:07 am to Odysseus32
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We put Cinderellas in March Madness when they have no shot,
Football and basketballs are in no way equal. 1 player getting hot in basketball can carry a team. That isn’t the same for football
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:52 am to NorCali
Just go to 16 teams and let the 1 and 2 seed play the 2 G5 schools.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:01 am to NorCali
G5 teams do need access, but they need to limit the privilege. Nobody should have an automatic bid. Either the conference championship games go away, or you just make them exhibition games done for conference bragging rights.
Just take the final rankings best teams. Now I am willing to give them some leeway because there is an inherent bias against them. So, i would take a G5 team in say the top 15 if no G5 team made the top 12.
Just take the final rankings best teams. Now I am willing to give them some leeway because there is an inherent bias against them. So, i would take a G5 team in say the top 15 if no G5 team made the top 12.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:29 am to NorCali
Why doesn't anyone hate on the ACC? If Miami was the ACC champ, JMU doesn't get in and theirs another at-large spot available. If the actual ACC champ was ranked higher than JMU then they are in and JMU is out.
The problem with 16 team leagues is that there can be these 4 team ties that don't always result in the top 2 ranked teams playing each other.
The problem with 16 team leagues is that there can be these 4 team ties that don't always result in the top 2 ranked teams playing each other.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:55 am to Stropdaddy
A little bit of history: the Bowl Championship Series “BCS” WAS a computer ranking program that allowed for like a 1/3 “human correction”. Essentially, human voters HAD to punish a team when they lost. So, Notre Dame would play Michigan or Miami early, lose, but would climb over the Florida - Florida State loser the last weekend every year despite having the same record. Now we have playoffs and we aren’t far from arguing which 4-loss team is “hot” at the end of the year and deserves to make the field. Personally, I would have stopped at NY6 bowls then a plus-one Championship game. Sad that there is zero prestige to being the Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl champs now
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:17 am to NorCali
This year was an anomaly because of Duke winning the ACC and the five highest ranked conference champions rule.
There's a simple fix:
Include the highest ranked G5 team by a sanctioned computer model (like the BCS) in the playoffs but only if they are in the Top 12 or Top 16 when the playoff expands. I would assume that passes muster from any antitrust considerations. It's objective and still gives G5 programs access to the CFP.
It wasn't so bad. There are always crap games in the playoff. There aren't 12 teams (certainly not 16) that are capable of winning a title. At least Notre Dame was excluded.
There's a simple fix:
Include the highest ranked G5 team by a sanctioned computer model (like the BCS) in the playoffs but only if they are in the Top 12 or Top 16 when the playoff expands. I would assume that passes muster from any antitrust considerations. It's objective and still gives G5 programs access to the CFP.
It wasn't so bad. There are always crap games in the playoff. There aren't 12 teams (certainly not 16) that are capable of winning a title. At least Notre Dame was excluded.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:22 pm to mikedatyger
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BCS
The solution. You can't sue a computer calculation.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:38 pm to NorCali
Wasn't that decision made when the PAC-12 still existed?
Their demise should have been the end of this stupid rule
Their demise should have been the end of this stupid rule
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