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Ford ends Ford F-150 Lightning EV production; writes off $19.5B in losses

Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1373 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:04 pm

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Ford CEO Jim Farley joins CNBC's Phil LeBeau and 'Closing Bell Overtime' to talk the companies decision to scale back EV production.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26917 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:05 pm to
corporate america is so fricking stupid. anyone with a brain knew this was doomed
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129442 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:07 pm to
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corporate america is so fricking stupid. anyone with a brain knew this was doomed


This was forced upon them by biden/obama

Gotta build some EVs to offset the mpg of ICE trucks/SUVs

Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19504 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:09 pm to
It looked good on paper but was stupid AF when it came down to reality
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:12 pm to
corporate malfeasance at the highest levels of these auto manufacturers.


these CEOs knew damn good and well the numbers didn't remotely work and were scared shitless of the Biden Cartel so they swallowed their bile and sang the praises of Our Lord and Savior, EV and cost their stockholders billions.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5073 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:13 pm to
Good, they were overcharging on ICE to make up for losses on EVs.

We'll see if prices come down in the next year.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Rankest
Alpine
Member since Aug 2025
159 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
Time to slap a supercharged 5.8 in them bad boys
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35838 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:14 pm to
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corporate america is so fricking stupid. anyone with a brain knew this was doomed


Yet another example of why the govt attempting to pick winners never works.

I'm curious if people who own them will still be able to get them serviced over the coming years/decades.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34102 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:15 pm to
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corporate malfeasance at the highest levels of these auto manufacturers.


100 percent. people should go to jail over this.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
13751 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:15 pm to
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these CEOs knew damn good and well the numbers didn't remotely work and were scared shitless of the Biden Cartel so they swallowed their bile and sang the praises of Our Lord and Savior, EV and cost their stockholders billions.



A lot of people underestimate just how much damage the Brandon and O'Shithead regimes did to the auto industry.

Most of the quality control issues and out of control prices we're seeing today stem from companies scrambling to reinvent the wheel to adhere to EV and emissions mandates.

Forcing companies to stray away from their core competencies never ends well.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16695 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:16 pm to
They're switching the Lightning from BEV to EREV. It's not going away.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16695 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:17 pm to
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This was forced upon them by biden/obama

Partially. But don't discount how hard wall street was pushing them as they all salivated over Tesla market cap. They didn't want to invest in old tech and were holding investment hostage over it.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:18 pm to
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They're switching the Lightning from BEV to EREV. It's not going away.


why dont you just say the EV was fricking stupid so they're moving back to the old hybrid model that worked for decades for toyota instead of throwing out terms that no one on this board knows.

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billjamin
oh yeah, thats why.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133441 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:18 pm to
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to scale back EV production.


Shocking
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24822 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:20 pm to
Shocked I tell you! Shocked!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16695 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:20 pm to
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why dont you just say the EV was fricking stupid so they're moving back to the old hybrid model that worked for decades for toyota instead of throwing out terms that no one on this board knows.

Because it's not a hybrid. Its an extended range EV. There's a difference.

And yes the BEV F150 was a stupid idea and only had a limited fleet use case.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:24 pm to
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Because it's not a hybrid. Its an extended range EV. There's a difference.
pay no attention to that gasoline engine! its only there to charge the batteries!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16695 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:26 pm to
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pay no attention to that gasoline engine! its only there to charge the batteries!

If the ICE can propel the vehicle it's a Hybrid.
If the ICE exists only to supply power via a gen set to power the electric motors its an extended range EV.

This isn't that hard. And i have one of those Toyota hybrids sitting in my garage so i'm pretty familiar with it.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14039 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:28 pm to
Biden made american autos great again
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:29 pm to
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If the ICE exists only to supply power via a gen set to power the electric motors its an extended range EV.
so ford put into production what some tesla owners did which was to put a generator in their trunk with a can of gasoline to charge the batteries on long trips.
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