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re: RPI Rant
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:56 pm to LuckyLee
Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:56 pm to LuckyLee
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I'm not sure if I agree though.
How can losing (w/o scoring margin included) EVER be evidence of your team strength.
Again, I could lose to the 1992 Dream Team. Beating Glen Oaks High > losing to Duke anywhere.
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 2:59 pm to lsumatt
I agree Matt, but MOV should only be taken into consideration in a loss, not a win
Posted on 2/12/09 at 3:00 pm to lsumatt
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How can losing (w/o scoring margin included) EVER be evidence of your team strength.
It shouldn't be without including MOV. I've never said RPI is perfect, just like sagarin isn't perfect. They're just metrics to use to gain a much clearer picture than looking at a W-L column.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 3:04 pm to lsumatt
Georgetown [13-9 (4-7), RPI: 34, SOS: 2] If not for playing the country's second-toughest schedule, Georgetown probably wouldn't even be in the at-large discussion. The Hoyas are only 4-8 in their last 12 games, losing six of their last seven. Georgetown is 3-7 against RPI top-50 foes (wins at Connecticut and home against Memphis and Syracuse) and is 1-5 on the road.LINK
they have lost 6 of 7... i dont care if they played the celtics 7 times, an rpi of 34 is ridiculous!
they have lost 6 of 7... i dont care if they played the celtics 7 times, an rpi of 34 is ridiculous!
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 4:00 pm to lsumatt
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How can losing (w/o scoring margin included) EVER be evidence of your team strength.
I agree with your reasoning, and don't doubt your math, but maybe the example you chose is a rare anomaly that is mathematically possible only in conjunction with the other games on the team's schedule, but unlikely to occur often enough to actually mess up the rankings.
For instance, even assuming we would have gotten more out of a loss to Duke than we did out of our win over Alcorn, if you project those results over the whole season (i.e. 0-30 vs. a schedule of 30 games against Duke compared to 30-0 vs. a schedule of 30 games against Alcorn), do you think the 0-30 team would rate higher than the 30-0 team?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 5:35 pm to lsumatt
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Beating Glen Oaks High > losing to Duke anywhere.
I disagree
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