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Thanksgiving Discussion for your more Liberal guests

Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:59 pm
Ryan Maue
@RyanMaue

When you're enjoying turkey w/your more liberal relatives, tell them that the first Thanksgivings during early 17th Century were greatly affected by climate change, and led to the events in the Crucible.

Tip: You can start the conversation with "well actually, Barb"

The Little Ice Age brought very cold conditions to the North Atlantic region just as Pilgrims crossed to the New World in the early 1600s.

Why? Lower solar activity (Maunder Minimum) and major volcanic eruptions cooled the Northern Hemisphere by 2 °C, shortening growing seasons and increasing storminess. More/worse hurricanes in a colder Atlantic ... (bet you didn't know that, Barb).

(Aside: discuss the massive "climate fueled" hurricane that led to settlement of Bermuda by Jamestown relief expedition)

Little Ice Age cold or "climate shock"

Roanoke struggled in the late 1580s,

Jamestown endured the deadly “Starving Time” winter of 1609–1610 with 80 % mortality,

Half the Mayflower passengers died in the harsh 1620–1621 winter. Very harsh!

Shorter growing seasons due to climate change of -2°C (pre-industrial by definition)

--> Repeated crop failures from late spring and early fall frosts forced colonists to abandon Old World wheat for Native corn and rye. Locals helped teach them corn

Brutal --> during coldest phase of the Little Ice Age (1680–1730), renewed harvest failures and economic stress in New England contributed to heightened social tension.

Climate change directly led to the 1692 Salem witch trials.

--> America’s earliest history was thus shaped by a prolonged, natural episode of global cooling and the adaptation, and even some witchcraft.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:01 pm to
i find it amazing how many people are ignorant of the little iceage.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7839 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:08 pm to
Nice summation...and suggestion.

I believe that the book of Genesis accurately states history. Yes, Thanksgiving discussions with Liberal family members are fun.

This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Thanksgiving Discussion for your more Liberal guests


Listen Barb, in this house we believe in science, men cannot become women no matter what they pretend their pronouns are.

It's quite simply mental illness and sexual deviancy, I will not stand here and let you talk about your gender fairy in the sky religion.

Michelle Obama is a perfect example...
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Thanksgiving Discussion for your more Liberal guests
"Here is a list of divisive topics to discuss with your guests today."

What a great host.
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
262 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:19 pm to
Or just not be a douche and leave politics at the door. Glad my family aren’t made up of a bunch of children. We all disagree, but it’s never once gotten between us or brought up at thanksgiving.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Brutal --> during coldest phase of the Little Ice Age (1680–1730), renewed harvest failures and economic stress in New England contributed to heightened social tension.

In that period of years the colonists of what is now called New England had various laws and customs regarding marriage. One of them was 'Marriage Season'. When your marriage was approved you set your wedding date for Fall. That's because a Fall pregnancy would result in a Summer birth. If your baby was born in those extremely cold winters there was a higher chance of death.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24172 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:28 pm to
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In that period of years the colonists of what is now called New England had various laws and customs regarding marriage. One of them was 'Marriage Season'. When your marriage was approved you set your wedding date for Fall. That's because a Fall pregnancy would result in a Summer birth. If your baby was born in those extremely cold winters there was a higher chance of death.


Interesting info. Amazing how much we take for granted and what they had to deal with and plan out
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:45 pm to
I bring this up every time a stupid libtard preaches this crap to me.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:49 pm to
If you're still giving your lib family the time of day you're doing it wrong.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:14 pm to
Until the late 1800s, most Americans outside the large cities married cousins, too. It was a consequence of limited travel and transportation ... limitations still in play in undeveloped regions of the world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:17 pm to
better idea, dont discuss politics at Thanksgiving.

My family managed to pull that off for decades.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:21 pm to
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“Progressives spend so much time turning conservatives and Christians into the enemy that we forget to think critically…
and when we finally do, we discover we actually have a TON in common.”
And vice versa.

One need look no further than this forum, to see the way that Trumpists react to any perspective differing (however slightly) from their own worldview.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:23 pm to
1228 alter putting in work.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Until the late 1800s,


Not very relevant now.

Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
3002 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:27 pm to
one could also not be a dildo and bring up politics at what should be a celebration of friends and family
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
1427 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:28 pm to
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quote:

Until the late 1800s,
Not very relevant now.
In the developed world, no, or course not.

But transportation infrastructure in much of the undeveloped world is not much better now than the standards of the 1800s.

The simple fact is that you are less likely to marry a relative if you travel, and more likely to marry a relative if you never go more than ten miles from your birthplace.

It is what it is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294597 posts
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Today’s young progressives — full of genuine compassion and hope for a better world —




No. They are true believers. There is no hope for many of them.
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