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Kiffin (at OM) Vs. Heupel (at UT Jr.) Vs. Drink (at Mizzou) Vs. Dilly (at ASU) Numbers
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:58 pm
Overall Record:
Heupel: 45-18 (0.714)
Kiffin: 54-19 (0.740)
Drink: 45-28 (0.616)
Dilly: 22-15 (0.595)
Record Vs. T25 Teams:
Heupel: 11-13 (0.458)
Kiffin: 10-10 (0.500)
Drink: 7-18 (.280)
Dilly: 6-6 (.500)
Record Vs. T10 Teams
Heupel: 3-7 (0.300)
Kiffin: 4-7 (0.364)
Drink: 1-11 (0.083)
Dilly: 1-5 (0.200)
Average Recruiting Class Ranking per On3:
Heupel: 14.8
Kiffin: 19.6
Drink: 23.8
Dilly: 49.3
NY6/CFP Appearances
Heupel: 2-2 (0.500)
Kiffin: 2-3 (0.400)
Drink: 1-4 (0.200)
Dilly: 1-1 (0.500)
Based off of these numbers, LSU needs to be staying far away from Drink. I'm not sure if Dilly is ready for a job of this magnitude. Doesn't have but a few years of HC experience. He may have just caught lightning in a bottle last year.
Saw some guy in another thread get shite for suggesting Heupel as a backup for Kiffin. No clue why because Heupel is pretty darn close to Kiffin statistically. Kiffin also has an extra year skewing his stats, so I'd give Heupel the benefit of the doubt that his numbers would be closer than what's shown.
Heupel's teams at UT Jr. have looked very similar to Kiffin's OM teams. I think if Hendon Hooker hadn't torn his ACL in 2022 and we had the 12-team instead of the 4-team, then UT Jr. could've made a good playoff run.
Heupel: 45-18 (0.714)
Kiffin: 54-19 (0.740)
Drink: 45-28 (0.616)
Dilly: 22-15 (0.595)
Record Vs. T25 Teams:
Heupel: 11-13 (0.458)
Kiffin: 10-10 (0.500)
Drink: 7-18 (.280)
Dilly: 6-6 (.500)
Record Vs. T10 Teams
Heupel: 3-7 (0.300)
Kiffin: 4-7 (0.364)
Drink: 1-11 (0.083)
Dilly: 1-5 (0.200)
Average Recruiting Class Ranking per On3:
Heupel: 14.8
Kiffin: 19.6
Drink: 23.8
Dilly: 49.3
NY6/CFP Appearances
Heupel: 2-2 (0.500)
Kiffin: 2-3 (0.400)
Drink: 1-4 (0.200)
Dilly: 1-1 (0.500)
Based off of these numbers, LSU needs to be staying far away from Drink. I'm not sure if Dilly is ready for a job of this magnitude. Doesn't have but a few years of HC experience. He may have just caught lightning in a bottle last year.
Saw some guy in another thread get shite for suggesting Heupel as a backup for Kiffin. No clue why because Heupel is pretty darn close to Kiffin statistically. Kiffin also has an extra year skewing his stats, so I'd give Heupel the benefit of the doubt that his numbers would be closer than what's shown.
Heupel's teams at UT Jr. have looked very similar to Kiffin's OM teams. I think if Hendon Hooker hadn't torn his ACL in 2022 and we had the 12-team instead of the 4-team, then UT Jr. could've made a good playoff run.
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:02 pm to p2juneau
An absolute joke we are considering Drink.. especially at the 10m+/yr it would take.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:03 pm to p2juneau
Heupel is basically Kiffin without Twitter.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:04 pm to Honkus
Yea, hopefully Verge and the boys are just doing this for show and not being serious about it. It'd just be BK 2.0.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:04 pm to p2juneau
Kiffin has the best resume on paper. Also he has the most experience, coached under Saban for years, and failed the most out of all these coaches. Those failures are a great opportunity to learn.
He’s the surest bet out of all these candidates.
Dilly has only been a head coach for a few years but he’s been a big time OC, think he can handle a big time SEC job.
He’s the surest bet out of all these candidates.
Dilly has only been a head coach for a few years but he’s been a big time OC, think he can handle a big time SEC job.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:04 pm to p2juneau
Now that's some legit data. Thanks for sharing it. If success is defined by LSU as wins then it is pretty easy to see why Kiff would do well here. Heupel is a very good coach as well. I don't think that I would be disappointed with either.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:05 pm to WilliamTaylor21
and a propane salesman for a father
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:06 pm to p2juneau
Heupel is Fat Kiffin. FK
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:07 pm to extremelsu
Agreed on experience, but Heupel is basically a 1B statistically as HC. I didn't count total HC experience, but something worth noting is that Heupel led some solid teams at UCF. He was HC when LSU played them in Fiesta bowl year before NC.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:08 pm to VincentVega
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:09 pm to WilliamTaylor21
quote:
Heupel is basically Kiffin without Twitter.
Tennessee has more resources/money than ole miss
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:10 pm to p2juneau
Also telling that Ole Miss average recruiting ranking is around 20th. He has to know he'll do much better than that at LSU.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:11 pm to extremelsu
quote:Only if you ignore 75% of his resume
Kiffin has the best resume on paper
The raiders are on his resume
USCe is on his resume
Tenn is on his resume
His flameout at bama is on his resume
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:11 pm to Beessnax
quote:
Now that's some legit data.
No it’s not. The numbers aren’t even right. Kiffin is 115-53 overall as a college head coach and coming into this season he was 11-24 against ranked teams.
So not only are the numbers not right, they don’t show any adjustment for any advanced stat like strength of opponent. Beating #25 Tulane and #6 Alabama are not the same thing. Just like losing to #24 Kentucky or #1 Georgia aren’t.
quote:
coached under Saban for years
For like two and a half years where he was unceremoniously fired during the post season
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:11 pm to p2juneau
I know it’s not a big sample size, but Dillingham has done more with way less talent. I think he could be great at LSU with all of the talent and resources.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:11 pm to p2juneau
quote:Heupel is a heck of an offensive coach. Watching their scripted play to open games is like a well orchestrated symphony.
Agreed on experience, but Heupel is basically a 1B statistically as HC. I didn't count total HC experience, but something worth noting is that Heupel led some solid teams at UCF. He was HC when LSU played them in Fiesta bowl year before NC.
I also think its more impressive winning at ole miss than Tennessee
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:12 pm to Cosmo
quote:
Tennessee has more resources/money than ole miss
Just curious, how do you calculate this? Where do you get your info?
I see comments like this thrown around all the time, but I have no clue how random individuals on the internet know exactly how deep a whole university’s pockets are
Just seems like a weird assumption to throw out there
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:13 pm to p2juneau
Heupel would be an excellent fallback option if Kiffin doesn't come here, IMO.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:14 pm to Cosmo
Agreed, and he's brought UT Jr. out of the gutter that it was in. They've showed flashes, but have had some unfortunate luck with the QB position.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:14 pm to lsupride87
I actually care a lot more about what lane is doing at Ole Miss than how he did at USC 12 years ago.
believe it or not.
believe it or not.
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