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Painting an older home
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:38 am
My wife and I are starting the project of painting our house. We have an older house with wooden paneling. Any tips to help this turn out the best? Should we use an oil-based primer and paint, or stick with water (or something else) based?
Neither of us have done a painting project before as this is our first house. We also have a toddler and an infant, which makes us not necessarily want to use oil based if we really don't need to.
Any tips are appreciated.
Neither of us have done a painting project before as this is our first house. We also have a toddler and an infant, which makes us not necessarily want to use oil based if we really don't need to.
Any tips are appreciated.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:53 am to bradygolf98
Prime with either oil or latex primer(oil prob better) then go back and caulk and putty all the cracks and holes and then follow with 2 coats of good latex wall paint.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:00 am to Duck Island
I would use Zinsser BIN oil based primer and top coat with latex.
Zinsser makes an odorless oil based that I have used and works well. It's just more expensive than BIN.
Definitely clean the wall before priming. Lightly sanding the surface wouldn't hurt.
Zinsser makes an odorless oil based that I have used and works well. It's just more expensive than BIN.
Definitely clean the wall before priming. Lightly sanding the surface wouldn't hurt.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:14 am to WITNESS23
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Definitely clean the wall before priming
Clean as in wipe down or use a cleaning product?
We actually got some Zinsser oil based primer last night, decided to ask before starting. Didn't realize they made an odorless one.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:16 am to bradygolf98
We plan on using a lighter paint color, off white. With oil based primer on wood paneling, would it cause yellowing over time with a light paint color? My wife said she read that somewhere and was concerned.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:19 am to bradygolf98
At minimum wipe to get any dirt and things off the surface, but ideally use any degreaser you can pick up at home depot or Walmart.
Better the prep, the better product you'll have in the long run.
Better the prep, the better product you'll have in the long run.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:19 am to WITNESS23
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I would use Zinsser BIN oil based primer and top coat with latex
Technically, (not to be that guy), BIN is shellac-based. It will clean-up with denatured alcohol, acetone or isopropyl alcohol.
It dries quickly (20 minutes to touch), which is why it's primarily sprayed instead of brushed or rolled. It's great for knots, smoke and nicotine stains. It has a heavy shellac / alcohol odor.
If you're coating paneling, you might be better off using a water-based primer (Zinsser 1-2-3, SW Pro Block, etc.). These clean up easier, are relatively low-odor and work very well.
Finish with a good quality latex wall paint (SW, BMoore or Valspar).
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:24 am to BasilFawlty
Correct
And the Shellac primer, as I understand it can yellow. The shellac based doesn't.
And the Shellac primer, as I understand it can yellow. The shellac based doesn't.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:30 am to WITNESS23
Any oil-based product (primer or topcoat) will yellow because of their ingredients and drying mechanism. Yellowing is basically oxidation.Waterborne alkyds will yellow less.
An oil based primer will not cause a latex top coat to yellow, providing there is enough millage to effectively cover the primer.
Seeing how you're first timers with young kids around, an all waterborne system would work best for your job, IMHO.
An oil based primer will not cause a latex top coat to yellow, providing there is enough millage to effectively cover the primer.
Seeing how you're first timers with young kids around, an all waterborne system would work best for your job, IMHO.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:22 pm to BasilFawlty
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BasilFawlty
Thank you
Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:43 pm to bradygolf98
You're welcome. Just remember, all surfaces should be clean, dull, and dry before starting.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:23 pm to bradygolf98
Don’t let your wife cut anything in.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:52 am to T-Jon
I second the BIN Shellac primer. Wife used to do paint projects as a side hustle, and taking wood kitchen/bath cabinets from stain to paint, this is what she used. Power sanded them, sprayed on the primer, and then followed with paint a day or two later.
If you're doing a lot of painting, like multiple rooms in your house, go get the HVLP Wagner sprayer from Lowe's. It works well with the primer and paint. I would help on her projects most of the time, and would do most of the spraying. She handled prep work, taping, and the final spray, but I loved laying down a coat of primer and the first coat of paint.
If you're doing a lot of painting, like multiple rooms in your house, go get the HVLP Wagner sprayer from Lowe's. It works well with the primer and paint. I would help on her projects most of the time, and would do most of the spraying. She handled prep work, taping, and the final spray, but I loved laying down a coat of primer and the first coat of paint.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:28 am to bradygolf98
I did this very thing about 2 years ago.
I bought an older home (1970s) and it has paneling. I used an oil base primer and latex paint.
IIRC the wife picked a Benjamin Moore color called Swiss Coffee. Its an off white but none the less still very close to white. I have no signs of any yellowing.
My only issue is my toddler running hot wheels down the walls and other toys. The white shows everything pretty easily but there was no way I could talk her into anything else.
I bought an older home (1970s) and it has paneling. I used an oil base primer and latex paint.
IIRC the wife picked a Benjamin Moore color called Swiss Coffee. Its an off white but none the less still very close to white. I have no signs of any yellowing.
My only issue is my toddler running hot wheels down the walls and other toys. The white shows everything pretty easily but there was no way I could talk her into anything else.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 12:34 pm to BasilFawlty
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Seeing how you're first timers with young kids around, an all waterborne system would work best for your job, IMHO.
I wouldn't even want to try and live in a house with only myself and use oil and certainly not shellac based primers. With kids being there its a no-brainer. Even with water, paint on nice days when you can open the doors and windows.
I've used lots of both oil and water based primers. I like oil for bare wood mainly because it dries to a more friable condition which makes sanding easier. Water primers tends to be more rubbery and clogs sandpaper unless it has several days to dry. I never have been able to tell either one has better adhesion than the other.
I have almost no experience with shellac other than it dries fast AF and will make you high
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:50 am to bradygolf98
I prefer Kilz but if you don't want it to look like painted paneling you have a couple of choices
1. Two coats of latex primer if you don't want to use oil primer. Sand paneling.Lightly sand between coats. Fill groves with caulk. Apply at least two coats of top grade , name brand latex...again a very light sand between coats. Wait a few days and see if a third coat is needed.
2. Put 1/4 inch dry wall on top of paneling, tape, float and paint for a professional finish.
1. Two coats of latex primer if you don't want to use oil primer. Sand paneling.Lightly sand between coats. Fill groves with caulk. Apply at least two coats of top grade , name brand latex...again a very light sand between coats. Wait a few days and see if a third coat is needed.
2. Put 1/4 inch dry wall on top of paneling, tape, float and paint for a professional finish.
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