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Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:42 pm
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Google was accused in a lawsuit of using its Gemini AI assistant to unlawfully track the private communications of users of its Gmail, instant messaging and videoconference programs.
In the past, users of Gmail, Chat and Meet were given the option to turn on Google’s artificial intelligence program. But in October, the Alphabet Inc. unit “secretly” turned on Gemini for all those applications, enabling it to collect private data “without the users’ knowledge or consent,” according to the complaint filed late Tuesday in federal court in San Jose, California.
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:11 pm to TigerGman
I don't know why people expect Google to act any differently than they do. Of course an engineering or product team decided this was a good idea with no privacy oversight or review.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:30 pm to LemmyLives
It's pretty much their entire business model.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:40 am to TigerGman
they literally listen to our conversations when our phones are 'off' and sitting across the room on a shelf so i would expect nothing less from their AI
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:43 pm to Ricardo
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It's pretty much their entire business model.
And X, Facebook, Apple, etc...
Its all about getting your info and selling it.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 5:59 am to SG_Geaux
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.... Apple, etc...
Its all about getting your info and selling it.
?
Got a link?
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:09 am to TigerGman
While I don’t want to go round and round on this with you again, and I am not the original poster so I hope we can keep this civil, I would like to make one point.
Roughly 20% of Apples profits come directly from selling default search to google. So while they may not have data mining as a business model, they are certainly profiting off of it.
Wouldn’t you say this is at least problematic to the argument that Apple has privacy of its users as a top priority?
Roughly 20% of Apples profits come directly from selling default search to google. So while they may not have data mining as a business model, they are certainly profiting off of it.
Wouldn’t you say this is at least problematic to the argument that Apple has privacy of its users as a top priority?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:45 am to dltigers3
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Roughly 20% of Apples profits come directly from selling default search to google. So while they may not have data mining as a business model, they are certainly profiting off of it.
Wouldn’t you say this is at least problematic to the argument that Apple has privacy of its users as a top priority?
Yes. Any iPhone user stupid enough to use Google search gets what he deserves. But if they demand Google Search, Apple would be foolish to not offer it to them. That's on the ignorant user, not Apple.
Use Apple and you have ZERO need for anything Google, least of all Google's data mine your arse's Android.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:08 am to TigerGman
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if they demand Google Search, Apple would be foolish to not offer it to them
I guess I don’t see it as the user demanding google search, I see it as Apple selling the user out for 20 billion dollars a year. Again, most iPhone users don’t even know that you can change your search engine and Apple doesn’t exactly advertise that because they make a ton of money off of selling you out to google
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:05 am to dltigers3
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I see it as Apple selling the user out for 20 billion dollars a year.
Why else would Google pay that much and be such a large % of Apple's revenue otherwise?
Notice he had to pivot and shift his argument from one about Apple, to one about Apple's users (who clearly predominantly use Google, which means he's calling Apple users sheep himself in ironic fashion, but that's for another thread).
On the larger topic, I just assume everything is buying/selling my data. I imagine even if you devolve to a dumb phone, it will still have ways to do this. And that doesn't account for everyone else's phones being able to get data from you, computer usage, etc. It's just part of living in modern society. You can't avoid it, for better or worse.
I don't think it's ever personally affected me in a negative way, but I'd be willing to listen.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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I just assume everything is buying/selling my data.
Assuming you meant to say everyone, not everytiing, where's your link to Apple still doing it?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:35 am to TigerGman
I like the "Apple STILL doing it" here because this guy knows Apple has been caught doing shady shite in the past. Like from 2014 to December 2024 Siri spying case that very recently just settled. On top of selling their users to Google, as already mentioned, and remember when they got caught for their ongoing strategy of making old phones shitty to try to get it's users to buy new ones?
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