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Pelicans are using Thanksgiving week standings as evaluation for future of Willie

Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:35 pm
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Even so, these discussions about his future are ongoing, and it truly does seem like a matter of when he will be relieved of his duties rather than if this will occur in the coming weeks. As ClutchPoints' Pelicans insider Chris Dodson reported, the team is being patient with Green, and the team is using the week of Thanksgiving near the end of November as a benchmark to evaluate the team's position and Green's standing.


Part of Siegel’s latest article.

He also says starting Jordan over Yves and benching Poole has frustrated the locker room.

Dumars is ready to move on due to the handling of Queen, and it seems like a matter of when and not if he will be fired.

Gayle is the only voice still advocating for him.

This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16935 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:37 pm to
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In any event that Green is removed as the head coach by the end of November, it is expected that James Borrego would assume duties as the interim head coach, sources said. Borrego has interviewed for several head coaching jobs through the years and ultimately decided to stay in New Orleans. He also has the support of many players, including Williamson.


Also says Jose and Hawk are being pursued by multiple teams
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13448 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:45 pm to
He's using Dodson as his source. Dodson also was one who hinted that Willie was getting fired when they got back from the previous west coast road trip only to crawfish when it did not happen.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7650 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:04 pm to
Gayle is such a dumb arse
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Hawk

Yes
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18971 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:20 pm to
I veiw Hawk the same as I did Trevor Penning. If anyone is willing to give up literally anything for him, do it.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13448 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Also says Jose and Hawk are being pursued by multiple teams
Cannot imagine multiple teams would be pursuing Hawk (unless they feel Dumars will pay to unload him).
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4689 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:25 pm to
Sure am glad we're exercising our due diligence about Willie's coaching abilities and not with hiring a GM.

Well run team we got here.
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
5906 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:36 pm to
Right, he has next to no value except to a team that thinks he can be a reclamation project. Free up the roster spot asap.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11817 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Gayle is the only voice still advocating for him


I'm advocating for the Grim reaper to come take Gail ASAP
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11103 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:39 pm to
I watched David Grubb say something pretty interesting about Green and the head coaching role. He stated that if go back in NBA history, firing a head coach, in-season, has never turned around a losing team. The teams either regressed, got worse, or just did the same as before. He supposedly did a lot of research and was able to recit numerous cases that supported his point.

He was not advocating for keeping Green. He was just stating that it probably wouldn't make any difference in the short-term..
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 2:01 pm to
Trying to create interest
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29565 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 2:04 pm to
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I watched David Grubb say something pretty interesting about Green and the head coaching role. He stated that if go back in NBA history, firing a head coach, in-season, has never turned around a losing team. The teams either regressed, got worse, or just did the same as before. He supposedly did a lot of research and was able to recit numerous cases that supported his point.



I mean this isn't rocket science. It has more to do with the shitty roster 95% of the time.
Doesn't matter who's coaching if you're roster simply sucks.

Chris Finch took over midseason for Ryan Saunders who started the season 7-24. They went 16-25 to close the season, which is considerably better. They won 46 games the next year, and have made the playoffs 4 years in a row now.

No one's expecting some miraculous turnaround this year, but that doesn't mean we can't bring in someone new who can start implementing his ways so that we can go in to the offseason knowing what to expect from the get go, and be ready to compete next year.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5391 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Dumars is ready to move on due to the handling of Queen, and it seems like a matter of when and not if he will be fired.


This seems like complete BS, particularly this part.

Queen had zero preseason. We are 8 games in. 3 of them were blowouts.

Sure maybe Queen should have played more against the clippers, but Queens role out so far shouldn’t have your hair on fire.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13448 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 3:58 pm to
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I watched David Grubb say something pretty interesting about Green and the head coaching role. He stated that if go back in NBA history, firing a head coach, in-season, has never turned around a losing team. The teams either regressed, got worse, or just did the same as before. He supposedly did a lot of research and was able to recit numerous cases that supported his point.

He was not advocating for keeping Green. He was just stating that it probably wouldn't make any difference in the short-term..
Seems like lazy research by Grubb or just estimating what improved means. The obvious situation here is, could it be worse? The players do not seem to want to play for Willie and his leash has been exceedingly longer than it should have been,
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16935 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 4:28 pm to
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Sure maybe Queen should have played more against the clippers, but Queens role out so far shouldn’t have your hair on fire.


Denver (14), Clippers (13), OKC (7) games he barely played.

Charlotte game he played 17 minutes and was so good Willie had no choice but to keep him out there.

That’s why Dumars is frustrated with him
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 6:55 pm to
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Also says Jose and Hawk are being pursued by multiple teams


If they trade Jose i swear to fricking god
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16935 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 7:12 pm to
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they trade Jose i swear to fricking god

Oh, you better prepare yourself, it’s gonna happen.

I think he will fetch a young player and a 1st

With their need at PG I could see Houston coming after him.

Something like Tari Eason for Jose, or Reed Sheppard for Jose and Hawk

Not sure if any draft compensation would need to be added for either of those, but with the abundance of PG talent we have they will most assuredly trade one, and Jose is the most tradeable
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 7:19 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11103 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 7:30 pm to
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think he will fetch a young player and a 1st



Alvarado?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16935 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Alvarado?

Yes.

Not a good young player, just a young player that’s not seeing playing time on his current team but may have some potential. Think someone like Rob Dillingham in Minnesota
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