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Healthcare costs make no sense ($11k for an FNA biopsy)
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:16 pm
So I posted before about having a biopsy which came back benign thank god.
The bill is fricking $11k. My out of pocket is $2k. I laid down on a bed for 15 minutes while they basically stuck a syringe in me and popped out 4 samples. No sedation or anything.
I had a fully sedated colonoscopy/endoscopy with biopsies last year with hospital fees/doctor fees/anesthesiologist fees and it was maybe like $1k out of pocket and the billed cost was maybe a little higher.
Is this normal? I am blown away by this. Thank frick I have an HSA but it’s certainly going to suck a lot from it.
The bill is fricking $11k. My out of pocket is $2k. I laid down on a bed for 15 minutes while they basically stuck a syringe in me and popped out 4 samples. No sedation or anything.
I had a fully sedated colonoscopy/endoscopy with biopsies last year with hospital fees/doctor fees/anesthesiologist fees and it was maybe like $1k out of pocket and the billed cost was maybe a little higher.
Is this normal? I am blown away by this. Thank frick I have an HSA but it’s certainly going to suck a lot from it.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:17 pm to jlovel7
Doctors have to pay for all those alimony payments
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:18 pm to jlovel7
I made a couple grand a year letting Pennington do shite like that to me
Those were the good ole days
Those were the good ole days
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:20 pm to jlovel7
FNA's are very Pathologist heavy work. Yeah, they are going to cost. And not capitalizing "God" costs you.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:20 pm to Sun God
Had a two hour drs visit in September
$23,000
$2500 out of pocket
fricking wild
$23,000
$2500 out of pocket
fricking wild
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:24 pm to BearCrocs
What specialty out of curiosity?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:25 pm to jlovel7
A lot of times its the facility charges that are outragous. Not as much the doctors.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:26 pm to jlovel7
I just got hit with 2.3k owed after 2.5 hours in the emergency room
They charged my insurance 10k
For 2.5 hours
Its aneurysm inducing
They charged my insurance 10k
For 2.5 hours
Its aneurysm inducing
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:27 pm to BearCrocs
I don’t know if they still do them but the Pennington studies were wild when I was in school
I did one where I ate 2000 extra calories a day for six weeks
Another one was a 1000 calorie deficit for six weeks
One was just eating a bunch of manda sausage with a placebo drug
First two involved multiple biopsies
I’ll probably die early
I did one where I ate 2000 extra calories a day for six weeks
Another one was a 1000 calorie deficit for six weeks
One was just eating a bunch of manda sausage with a placebo drug
First two involved multiple biopsies
I’ll probably die early
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:27 pm to WestCoastAg
This is the shite that’s out of control that’s going to shove us to socialized medicine and we all get shite care over it.
I get it. Healthcare is expensive. But when people get 15 minutes of care and slapped with this to pay for hospitals filled with bloat and barely even know it’s coming people get PISSED.
I get it. Healthcare is expensive. But when people get 15 minutes of care and slapped with this to pay for hospitals filled with bloat and barely even know it’s coming people get PISSED.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:28 pm to jlovel7
Someone has to pay for illegals.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:31 pm to jlovel7
The cost is out of control, but the even bigger issue is that you have no idea what it will cost but are obligated to pay it. That’s where healthcare is in a league of its own and it has to stop.
There are plenty of examples where you can enter two offices across the street from each other for the same service and one is $150 and the other is $2000. Pick the wrong door and you’re fricked.
There are plenty of examples where you can enter two offices across the street from each other for the same service and one is $150 and the other is $2000. Pick the wrong door and you’re fricked.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:31 pm to jlovel7
I had surgery on both eyes last spring and it was about 30k for both. My out of pocket was about 3k which I didnt think was too bad.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:32 pm to jlovel7
Have a good friend who makes a killing in the insurance business. He told me recently something very relevant to your 11k procedure.
"I have bad news but you're paying for those wildfires in California whether you want to or not"
"I have bad news but you're paying for those wildfires in California whether you want to or not"
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:39 pm to jlovel7
Just got a 4700 bill for my newborn daughter from just being in the same room as us after her birth. 4700 is our cost. I didn’t even want to see what they billed insurance.
All that just to come in a few times a day for 2.5 days (c section) and say “yep looks good”
All that just to come in a few times a day for 2.5 days (c section) and say “yep looks good”
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:39 pm to jlovel7
quote:
Is this normal? I am blown away by this. Thank frick I have an HSA but it’s certainly going to suck a lot from it.
Normal? Yes. A racket? Yes?
Basically. There is probably a cure for cancer. But it will not make nearly as much money for Doctors and Pharmaceuticals if it becomes a normal practice.
Drag out your eventual death for as much money as possible - that is what pays the stocks and doctors.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:41 pm to jlovel7
quote:
The bill is fricking $11k.
Is that the charge amount? That’s basically meaningless
Follow up: what was the final diagnosis? You have HIV?
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:49 pm to jlovel7
It was 14k before to put tubes in my child last week
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:53 pm to jlovel7
I quit paying medical bills years ago. They just send them to collection. I pay UHC each month, whatever they pay to the provider is enough.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:55 pm to jlovel7
Insurance "rates" are driven largely by three things:
1) Medicare rates
2) The amount of money they "ask" to charge in order to make up for the millions of deadbeats that never pay anything (illegal or not)
3) The shite they are forced to do in order to avoid litigation
As soon as you pay cash, the total billed gets much cheaper. Most of us have been shoved into high deductible plans anyway. Memorial Hermann charged my insurance two different amounts ($1200 and $1400 for the same procedure) eight weeks apart in the same facility. I paid cash, and went off site, and got the same imaging done for $180. MRIs done under insurance are thousands, cash payer, $220.
Sedated endoscopy was under $500 paying cash for me. With insurance, the amount of write downs and recovery rates on accounts receivable all generate metrics they care about, and the government can adjust reimbursements for. Pre ACA, on a "platinum plan," one kid cost me about $2,500 out of pocket for a birth. Two years later, in the same hospital, the next kid cost me more than twice that out of pocket, on the same plan.
1) Medicare rates
2) The amount of money they "ask" to charge in order to make up for the millions of deadbeats that never pay anything (illegal or not)
3) The shite they are forced to do in order to avoid litigation
As soon as you pay cash, the total billed gets much cheaper. Most of us have been shoved into high deductible plans anyway. Memorial Hermann charged my insurance two different amounts ($1200 and $1400 for the same procedure) eight weeks apart in the same facility. I paid cash, and went off site, and got the same imaging done for $180. MRIs done under insurance are thousands, cash payer, $220.
Sedated endoscopy was under $500 paying cash for me. With insurance, the amount of write downs and recovery rates on accounts receivable all generate metrics they care about, and the government can adjust reimbursements for. Pre ACA, on a "platinum plan," one kid cost me about $2,500 out of pocket for a birth. Two years later, in the same hospital, the next kid cost me more than twice that out of pocket, on the same plan.
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