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Saline/Larto crappie discussed by LWFC
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:43 pm
Long video, but the part about black/white crappie is at the beginning. Summary: flood events put into motion a situation where populations boomed while vegetation died. Competition among each resulted in slower growth. The proposed reduction in limit and size would do no good and would increase the existing problems.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:28 pm to AlxTgr
I wouldn’t trust this commission to do anything right. Once they taketh away, it will never be regained.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:51 pm to Motorboat
quote:Fortunately, the recommendation is to not change anything. The people wanting change are locals using anecdotal story type stuff and not science. I was initially in favor of change. Not anymore.
Once they taketh away, it will never be regained.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 7:50 am to AlxTgr
Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:58 am to Mung
quote:Back when you and I were doing well, it was are for us to catch a black. Almost entirely whites.
Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:15 am to Mung
quote:One of my local fishing lakes had its composition change over a period of time due to lake management and surrounding development of its watershed. In a matter of 2 years it went from a clear, mostly shallow, swampy backwater cypress lake to a muddy, turbulent one.
Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
Before the change, for every white crappie you'd catch, you'd have 10 specks, and in a matter of 2 to 3 years you'd have about half/half. Ten years later a speck is a rarity. They don't tolerate turbid conditions and current as much as white crappie. Fishing strategies for the two are different year round. They spawn at different water temps and whites are more semi- pelagic while specks lived in the deeply shaded shallow water cypress brakes and vegetation year round. That lake went from a poor man's crappie paradise where all you needed was a canoe, a skulling paddle, a couple rods to bump stumps and a spot to slide in, to needing offshore electronics, spider rigging setups and the boat ramp to launch at in order to chase the white perch after they moved out of the shallows.
There's been some interesting studies done on tagged black and white crappie and their habits and tendencies throughout the year.
If you ever want to know if you're catching specks or white perch (you can't always count on color), count the dorsal fins: white crappie will 5 to 6 spines while black crappie have 7 to 8 (don't forget to count the very first, shortest spine at the very front).
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:32 am to mudshuvl05
Yeah, our lakes, bayous and rivers generally have one or the other. The two lakes I fish the most are 100% blacks. One of the swamp lakes I fish used to be 100% blacks then whites came in after a flood event. Saline was traditionally a white paradise, then with hydrilla, clearing water and a flood or two, blacks became more prevalent. It's interesting to see the pictures from Toledo Bend. Some all one, and many with mixed bags.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:37 am to AlxTgr
Years ago Larto was insane, we would catch 40 to 50 of the biggest crappie you could imagine daily with ease.
There was something about a levee being built that screwed it up.
There was something about a levee being built that screwed it up.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:44 am to The Torch
quote:My shift from bass to crappie started there. One a whim one February, I went alone, bought some shiners and went to a set of banks where I had caught some accidental fish while bass fishing. For many years in a row, I could count on multiple weeks of spawning fish on those banks. Starting about 3/4 years ago, they went dead. I do not understand it especially considering the science shows no true population crash. I may try again this Spring, but with Woodson's closing and my hate for Open Bayou rd, it seems unlikely.
Years ago Larto was insane, we would catch 40 to 50 of the biggest crappie you could imagine daily with ease.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:46 am to AlxTgr
Don’t tell anyone but when the water is past the trees you can hammer them wading the bank. Hair jig/18” of line on a jig pole kills them.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:57 am to KemoSabe65
I've seen guys doing that around dry larto island. I no longer have that energy.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:02 am to KemoSabe65
My favorite way to catch them. Shallow water short line bite is a blast. You will lose some fish, but you can thumpem when they get up shallow. Me and my buddy call it Christmas time for a crappie guy,
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:24 am to mudcat tiger
Some of my favorite banks have button woods where I cannot get to the bank from my boat. I know I am missing out on bites by not getting out and walking some.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:40 am to mudcat tiger
quote:Wade fishing for giant crappie at Grenada Lake is about the only thing I truly get worked up over anymore in my regional outdoor pursuits. I would trade every other pursuit accessible to me to stalk the shallows wade fishing for big perch.
My favorite way to catch them. Shallow water short line bite is a blast. You will lose some fish, but you can thumpem when they get up shallow. Me and my buddy call it Christmas time for a crappie guy,
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:18 pm to mudshuvl05
Took me a while to figure out I needed to find reverse cause I couldn’t lift em 
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:49 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Shiners
You mean “shinners”?
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:50 pm to Mung
quote:Depends on the store
You mean “shinners”?
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:50 pm to Motorboat
quote:
Once they taketh away, it will never be regained
Unless we're talking about pogie-fishing waters
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