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Saline/Larto crappie discussed by LWFC

Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:43 pm
Long video, but the part about black/white crappie is at the beginning. Summary: flood events put into motion a situation where populations boomed while vegetation died. Competition among each resulted in slower growth. The proposed reduction in limit and size would do no good and would increase the existing problems.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:28 pm to
I wouldn’t trust this commission to do anything right. Once they taketh away, it will never be regained.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 5:51 pm to
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Once they taketh away, it will never be regained.
Fortunately, the recommendation is to not change anything. The people wanting change are locals using anecdotal story type stuff and not science. I was initially in favor of change. Not anymore.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 7:50 am to
Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:58 am to
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Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
Back when you and I were doing well, it was are for us to catch a black. Almost entirely whites.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2723 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:15 am to
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Interesting. So the fish we were catching around Muddy Bayou were all black crappie? Did we ever catch any white crappie out there?
One of my local fishing lakes had its composition change over a period of time due to lake management and surrounding development of its watershed. In a matter of 2 years it went from a clear, mostly shallow, swampy backwater cypress lake to a muddy, turbulent one.

Before the change, for every white crappie you'd catch, you'd have 10 specks, and in a matter of 2 to 3 years you'd have about half/half. Ten years later a speck is a rarity. They don't tolerate turbid conditions and current as much as white crappie. Fishing strategies for the two are different year round. They spawn at different water temps and whites are more semi- pelagic while specks lived in the deeply shaded shallow water cypress brakes and vegetation year round. That lake went from a poor man's crappie paradise where all you needed was a canoe, a skulling paddle, a couple rods to bump stumps and a spot to slide in, to needing offshore electronics, spider rigging setups and the boat ramp to launch at in order to chase the white perch after they moved out of the shallows.

There's been some interesting studies done on tagged black and white crappie and their habits and tendencies throughout the year.

If you ever want to know if you're catching specks or white perch (you can't always count on color), count the dorsal fins: white crappie will 5 to 6 spines while black crappie have 7 to 8 (don't forget to count the very first, shortest spine at the very front).
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:32 am to
Yeah, our lakes, bayous and rivers generally have one or the other. The two lakes I fish the most are 100% blacks. One of the swamp lakes I fish used to be 100% blacks then whites came in after a flood event. Saline was traditionally a white paradise, then with hydrilla, clearing water and a flood or two, blacks became more prevalent. It's interesting to see the pictures from Toledo Bend. Some all one, and many with mixed bags.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:37 am to
Years ago Larto was insane, we would catch 40 to 50 of the biggest crappie you could imagine daily with ease.

There was something about a levee being built that screwed it up.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:44 am to
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Years ago Larto was insane, we would catch 40 to 50 of the biggest crappie you could imagine daily with ease.
My shift from bass to crappie started there. One a whim one February, I went alone, bought some shiners and went to a set of banks where I had caught some accidental fish while bass fishing. For many years in a row, I could count on multiple weeks of spawning fish on those banks. Starting about 3/4 years ago, they went dead. I do not understand it especially considering the science shows no true population crash. I may try again this Spring, but with Woodson's closing and my hate for Open Bayou rd, it seems unlikely.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:46 am to
Don’t tell anyone but when the water is past the trees you can hammer them wading the bank. Hair jig/18” of line on a jig pole kills them.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:57 am to
I've seen guys doing that around dry larto island. I no longer have that energy.
Posted by mudcat tiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
287 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:02 am to
My favorite way to catch them. Shallow water short line bite is a blast. You will lose some fish, but you can thumpem when they get up shallow. Me and my buddy call it Christmas time for a crappie guy,
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:24 am to
Some of my favorite banks have button woods where I cannot get to the bank from my boat. I know I am missing out on bites by not getting out and walking some.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2723 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:40 am to
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My favorite way to catch them. Shallow water short line bite is a blast. You will lose some fish, but you can thumpem when they get up shallow. Me and my buddy call it Christmas time for a crappie guy,
Wade fishing for giant crappie at Grenada Lake is about the only thing I truly get worked up over anymore in my regional outdoor pursuits. I would trade every other pursuit accessible to me to stalk the shallows wade fishing for big perch.
Posted by MercyTriumphs
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:23 pm to
Livescopers.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:18 pm to
Took me a while to figure out I needed to find reverse cause I couldn’t lift em
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Shiners


You mean “shinners”?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86189 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:50 pm to
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You mean “shinners”?
Depends on the store
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11842 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Once they taketh away, it will never be regained


Unless we're talking about pogie-fishing waters
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