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I’m curious if this is a Zion issue or a culture issue?

Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33074 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:44 am
Are our coaches/training staff not strong enough to convince Zion to play through a little discomfort, or are they telling him to sit? It’s not just Zion we’ve seen it for years with AD, BI, Zion, the list goes on and on. Our star players generally do not play through discomfort and always take the “safe” route of sitting out until they “feel right”. We’ve even seen it with quotes like Zions infamous quote that he’ll play when he “feels like Zion”.

My question is simply whether we have a culture problem where we encourage our guys not to play, or a culture problem where our staff and team chemistry is too weak and guys aren’t willing to “risk it” if they aren’t 100% because the team isn’t a priority.

Either way it’s not good
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29805 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:17 am to
its the world we live in today. Every little bo bo has to be examined and if there are any signs of discomfort, then don't play.

Today we tell every athlete to sit if they are hurt.
20+ years ago we told them to suck it the frick up.

As someone who grew up in the suck it the frick time period, while I want people to suck it up more, there is a fine line between playing through pain that isn't detrimental to the injury, and prolonging or worsening the injury by playing through it. Just feels like in todays world we don't even entertain the though of playing through pain usually. it's just automatically you should sit out and come back when your 100%.


Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33074 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:23 am to
quote:

As someone who grew up in the suck it the frick time period, while I want people to suck it up more, there is a fine line between playing through pain that isn't detrimental to the injury, and prolonging or worsening the injury by playing through it. Just feels like in todays world we don't even entertain the though of playing through pain usually. it's just automatically you should sit out and come back when your 100%.

I agree with a lot of this and I know he’s not the only superstar that misses games. It just seems like our culture is one of being soft even more than most
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19151 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:25 am to
Its a catch 22. If an athlete has soreness that a hardnosed coach makes him play through, and he tears a muscle, who's fault is it?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31942 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:33 am to
It's the Tom thibodaux theory all over again.

You want a coach like him, but players shelf lives shorten because of it.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33074 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:36 am to
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It's the Tom thibodaux theory all over again.

You want a coach like him, but players shelf lives shorten because of it.


There is an in between of Tom Thibodeaux and your best player missing game three with a bone bruise
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55915 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:47 am to
Zion questionable again for Wednesday
Posted by Islandboy777
DAUPHIN ISLAND
Member since Jul 2023
3062 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:55 pm to
Zion and Uncle Joe are in it together to get bill green fired
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13489 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

There is an in between of Tom Thibodeaux and your best player missing game three with a bone bruise
How many games did BI miss with a bone bruise? It is not like it is a skin bruise.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74350 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:25 pm to
In a league run by players seems the pels are considered door mats from what I can see.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5539 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:50 pm to
Culture. Once Zion forces his way out he’ll suddenly find maturity and drive.
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