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Some in the UK want to cancel democracy in order to save democracy.

Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:31 am
Not the Bee.


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“Let the people vote,” says Nigel Farage as a national newspaper reports county leaders have specifically cited the risk that his Reform UK party could win the English council elections in their arguments to cancel them.



England Elections May be Postponed Another Year Amid Fears of Victories for Farage’s Reform Party - Brietbart

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Elections in seven English county councils, already postponed one year, may be postponed again. Brexit pioneer and Reform UK party leader Nigel Farage has launched a campaign against any further denial of a chance to vote to millions of Britons, while pointing out those councils who shout loudest about the need to postpone elections are those where sitting councillors are most likely to lose their seats to his surging populist party.

Elections in seven councils, covering over five million voters in Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, Surrey, East and West Sussex, and Hampshire, were postponed until 2026, as the government pushed to transform the structure of local government. Councils would become larger and have more powerful directly elected mayors, but this process is taking years and it was argued to the central government that having elections during this process would be wasteful.

Now, The Times claims to have seen submissions from several councils “lobbying hard” for elections to be denied yet again, and incredibly Council leaders are directly referencing the possibility that Nigel Farage’s party could win the votes as a justification to cancel the ballots. One unnamed Council leader is reported to have argued that Reform would “probably” win, which would “frustrate progress” with the local government restructuring.





This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:39 am to
Open and free elections! (As long as the approved people win).
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:40 am to
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Open and free elections! (As long as the approved people win).


Correct. It's the same system used in Iran.
Posted by thermal9221
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:42 am to
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Correct. It's the same system used in Iran.


Here too, until Trump was elected.
Then shite got nuts.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
3123 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:44 am to
They would do it here too, if they could.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3465 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:04 am to
Vote the way we want you to or you don't get to vote. Sounds "D"emocratic to me
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 11:05 am
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8390 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:07 am to
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They would do it here too, if they could.


They have done it here when they could.

Stuffing ballot boxes is the same as no election.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:11 am to
Democracy isn’t defined by the establishment globalists as popular rule.

It’s defined by them as anything that perpetuates their continued control over every facet of society and government.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:13 am to
"Our democracy" = "their power"

Never forget that.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:19 am to
It's pretty obvious the powers that be in Europe want no part of right wing populists who drum up emotions. So in the case of Farage, Le Pen in France or the AfD in Germany, they just cancel them if they can. They want their democrat societies the way they want them.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:23 am to
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they just cancel them if they can. They want their democrat societies the way they want them.


Correct. So we should stop pretending they are committed to democratic principles.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:34 am to
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Correct. So we should stop pretending they are committed to democratic principles.


They want no ascendancy of right wing populists (MAGA here). In the case of Germany perhaps they are concerned AfD could ascend as the old Nazis did in the 1930s. Those who currently govern want to control the messaging and politics. So the farthest right they will let in governments are the center right, middle of the road parties. I hate it but that's the way they do it.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 11:35 am to
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The Times claims to have seen submissions from several councils “lobbying hard” for elections to be denied yet again,

Shooting should start... NOW...

That's the red line, no elections.

You aren't a democracy unless you hold elections.



Miatta Fahnbulleh, the new devolution minister

Captive Nation.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 11:39 am
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:14 pm to
As a former British MP once said "The people have spoken, the bastards".
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16563 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:17 pm to
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