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Should Baker have run more of a read and react defense yesterday?

Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:10 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:10 am
Instead of trying to pressure and catch Pavia, go more to a read and react?
Posted by S
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:11 am to
My favorite part of that pavia TD run was the safeties reading him run past the LOS then reacting by turning and running away from him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:12 am to
Baker is over reliant on the blitz. You can't win long-term with a D based on blitzing in modern football. Offenses are too good and a good QB/OC/scheme will eat you up, especially in critical moments.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:13 am to
That's what I was thinking.

Reminded me of Georgia 04, which I know you saw, when Richt schemed for 9 months on how to beat the Saban blitz. Tore our arse up.
Posted by SludgeFactory
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:14 am to
Isn't that what a soft zone pretty much is?

We only tried to disrupt him a few times, and when 7 inevitably took bad angles, we got burned and then quit trying. Then we went into the "ole miss game defense" where we just rushed four, left the middle of the field wide open, and let him have his way.

Blake Baker has been exposed time and time again. Like Kelly, he is solid against teams that don't have much of a pulse. Put him against a top 70 offense, he folds. Put him up against a top 70 offense with a mobile QB, and you are toast. Dude is fool's gold.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:22 am to
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That's what I was thinking.

I said this early on in the season when we were rolling against bad offenses.

Blitzing can work against bad offenses, but good ones destroy it. Just because you get a few BAM plays from sacks doesn't mean it's +EV in totality.

Also blitzing makes spying incredibly difficult. You just don't have enough guys to do both, and this is a major reason why Baker has such trouble with mobile QBs
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:28 am to
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Baker is over reliant on the blitz


Been saying this for a while now.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the aggression for the most part. But it should/ could be more controlled.

Dudes were losing contain on Pavia every other play it felt like. It wasn’t just Harold, it was every perimeter type player including the CBs
Posted by LSUGoo
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:38 am to
Our best pass rushers are injured and we can’t pressure the qb without blitzing.
Also, we are not gap sound at all. I’m not sure what’s going on in practice but it’s not translating to game day
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:39 am to
Saban learned, maybe he will. Definitely capable of it
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:43 am to
It was kind of simple. Keep him in the pocket. Make him make throws to beat you.

No we blitzed him incessantly and watched HP7 run himself out of every play.

It was like watching a bball coach decide, hey we wanna keep that Steph Curry guy out of the lane. No layups for him, make him shoot threes.

When your entire fan base sees it something is wrong.
Posted by BasedAF
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:44 am to
Baker can’t scheme for mobile QBs. He was exposed yesterday. Just wait and watch what Marcel Reed and Taylen Green do to this defense. Hope he figures it out but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Don’t get me wrong, I like the aggression for the most part. But it should/ could be more controlled.

Dudes were losing contain on Pavia every other play it felt like. It wasn’t just Harold, it was every perimeter type player including the CBs


Yeah you'll get some negative plays but you're going to give up big plays, too. Too. It's really hard to blitz and deal with a mobile quarterback. I know our fans are obsessed with blitzing, but it's not a great strategy overall and a very bad thing to have as your base defense in modern football

Sacks do look really cool though
Posted by SludgeFactory
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:46 am to
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Also blitzing makes spying incredibly difficult. You just don't have enough guys to do both, and this is a major reason why Baker has such trouble with mobile QBs


Well, that's also part of the problem....lol

There were plenty of long QB runs where he clearly didn't blitz AND didn't spy. It was the exact same scheme the majority of the game we ran against Ole Miss, and last year against Reed, Milroe, and Sellers, Lagway, etc.

Dude is fool's gold.
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:48 am to
Lack of basic fundamentals is still a huge problem too. All season long outside rushers have given no thought to forcing the QB back inside and allowed the QB to spin outside, break contain and run for a big gain. Over and over again.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Baker is over reliant on the blitz. You can't win long-term with a D based on blitzing in modern football. Offenses are too good and a good QB/OC/scheme will eat you up, especially in critical moments.

One of the issues is that the defense is reliant on talent/individual players making plays. When those players can't make the individual plays (injuries, backups, general suckage) the defense struggles.

It seems like kind of the "spread offense" of defenses putting your playmakers in space and challenging them to make open field plays.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:59 am to
That delayed TE stuff was 100% scheme owning Baker. They knew if they hid it just long enough our LBs would rush and their TEs would be WIDE the frick open.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:15 am to
quote:

That delayed TE stuff was 100% scheme owning Baker. They knew if they hid it just long enough our LBs would rush and their TEs would be WIDE the frick open.


The sad thing is Baker never made any adjustments. He just gets stuck riding or dying with blitzes & line stunts. The line stunts are worse than the blitzes because this is what really gets the defensive line out of position & opens up running lanes for mobile QBs to escape.

Yesterday was the perfect example of the contrast between a DC like Dave Aranda vs Blake Baker. Baker will continue to do what he knows best in a game even if it's obviously not working & the defense is getting exposed because of it. His hyper aggressive style played right into Vandy's game plan. On the other hand, Aranda would have made adjustments eventually. Mush rush, mixing up coverages at times while occasionally bringing an extra defender but hiding it extremely well presnap. Until Baker is capable & open to adjust his game plans against mobile QBs or midgame accordingly, he's going to keep having issues against them.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:25 am to
Also, it's becoming obvious that in this new age of college football that coaching plays a much bigger role on Saturdays in wins & losses. It's becoming like the NFL where teams are so evenly matched that 3-4 plays decide the outcomes of games now. Gone are the days of teams just out talenting opponents.

Teaching sound fundamentals, great game planning, the ability to make proper in game adjustments & making sound situational decisions based on the flow of the game are now more crucial than ever. Teams with coaches who cannot accomplish this will find themselves losing close games against other good teams who do have the ability to do so. LSU vs Vandy & Ole Miss were perfect examples of this as well as Miami vs Louisville Friday night.
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:31 am to
I can't really judge the defense when the offense cant f score.
Posted by how333
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:31 am to
Doesn’t matter. Our defense is elite. That’s what we keep telling ourselves
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 9:33 am
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