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Much like the overrated Whiteout and PSU in general that job is not as attractive

Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
7228 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:53 pm
As people think it is. And as the candidates start emerging the question will be asked “is this guy even better than Franklin” I mean Franklin had a damn good run at upper 2nd tier Penn st. Battling Oregon, osu, UM I don’t think elites are gonna line up for that gig. Outside of this year I think Franklin MAXIMIZED Penn states ability to win and has made them believe they are more capable than they actually are. They will be down there with the likes of the huskers and Michigan state soon.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
987 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:06 pm to
Do you ever let a thought just stay in your head?
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
7190 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:11 pm to
No cap. Penn State and Big Game James were perfect for each other. Win 9-10 games a year and let the WORLD FAMOUS Ohio State Buckeyes drag their nuts all over you.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 10:57 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38898 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:37 pm to
Nittany Lion obsessed.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6817 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:55 pm to
I appreciate your takes.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
529 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 8:34 am to
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As people think it is. And as the candidates start emerging the question will be asked “is this guy even better than Franklin” I mean Franklin had a damn good run at upper 2nd tier Penn st. Battling Oregon, osu, UM I don’t think elites are gonna line up for that gig. Outside of this year I think Franklin MAXIMIZED Penn states ability to win and has made them believe they are more capable than they actually are. They will be down there with the likes of the huskers and Michigan state soon.


Better question is what does Oregon, OSU, and UM have that PSU doesn’t?

- PSU campus is 3 hours from NYC, Philly, the DMV, and Pittsburgh. Other than USC, what other top 10 historical program has access to such a large population area within 3 hours?
-107K capacity stadium currently undergoing a nearly billion dollar renovation. Despite being 2 hours from civilization, they still draw 100 plus every game. Same as UM and OSU. Autzen is nice but tiny
- one of the largest alumni networks in the country

In hindsight, Paterno mailed it in after the 1994 season as you can’t argue that PSU wasn’t a top 5 program from the late 70’s to early 90’s with some years being the best. While entering the B1G was the right move in 1993, you can’t argue that PSU slipped as PSU didn’t adjust well to living in the B1G culminating in 4/5 seasons with a losing record in the early 2000’s.

They had a resurgence from 2005-2011, but not where the program was prior to 1995.

The perfect example of the B1G affecting PSU was the rise of Wisconsin - the Badgers for nearly 3 decades seemed to have a never ending stream of stud running backs from New Jersey. Prior to 1993, PSU would have locked down a lot of that talent that went to other B1G schools.

Franklin did a good job building the program to where it was from 2005-2011 prior to the sanctions, but couldn’t get the program to where it was prior to 1995. He couldn’t rally the high dollar donors for various reasons which is critical in the NIL era.

The current AD is a fantastic fundraiser. It can’t be understated how bad the Sandusky scandal affected fundraising. The big reason is the University did nothing to defend itself and threw the football program under the bus.

It just straight up wrote blank checks to ANYONE who made a claim with zero vetting. Most PSU alumni think the Sandusky investigation didn’t go deep enough. The big dollar alumni were overall loyal to Paterno and didn’t trust the university. This caused some friction with O’Brian and Franklin in his early years.

It was VERY well known in PA that Sandusky ran a charity for at risk boys which was the largest supplier of foster services in central PA. This charity was under the direct supervision of the attorney general’s office. Sandusky found all his victims through this charity. Once Sandusky was found guilty, the investigation into the charity stopped as they decided to cease operations.

Now that the Sandusky scandal is 15 years in the rearview mirror, there’s starting to be a large cadre of alumni who were at PSU at the end/post the Paterno era entering their prime earning and donating years who don’t have the blind loyalty to Paterno. Hopefully the AD and new coach can rally them.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82723 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 10:07 am to
Good post, thanks for that. I have no connection to PSU but I root for them bc I like their uniforms.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30448 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 10:25 am to
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JamalMurry27



you ingested a shite load of lead paint as a child
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9258 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 10:28 am to
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No cap. Penn State


Fr fr
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
8865 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 10:38 am to
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Franklin did a good job building the program to where it was from 2005-2011 prior to the sanctions, but couldn’t get the program to where it was prior to 1995. He couldn’t rally the high dollar donors for various reasons which is critical in the NIL era.


IMO Franklin seems like someone who can rub you the wrong way and I can see how people wouldn't care for him and quickly got tired of 2-3 loss seasons. Once he lost to UCLA I can see donors saying if he loses another game we will close the checkbook.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23330 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 11:01 am to
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And as the candidates start emerging the question will be asked “is this guy even better than Franklin” I mean Franklin had a damn good run at upper 2nd tier Penn st.


LSU got rid of Les Miles who had a NC and multiple other top 5 finishes. How can you question PSU moving on when you consider what LSU did.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
2170 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Good post, thanks for that. I have no connection to PSU but I root for them bc I like their uniforms


Watch Adidas screw those classic uniforms up next year when they make the change from Nike.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38898 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:35 pm to
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- one of the largest alumni networks in the country



Penn State was the largest but now Indiana apparently is....of the 10 Largest Alumni Associations in the US, 7 are Big10 Schools. Big10 is everywhere and taking over everything, raking in the dough somewhat quietly... They don't chest pound and shout from the rooftops like the SEC leadership.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24905 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
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LSU got rid of Les Miles who had a NC and multiple other top 5 finishes. How can you question PSU moving on when you consider what LSU did.
Les would probably have won at least 2 more NC’s and would have kept his job a lot longer if he wasn’t so stubborn when it came to adopting modern offense. LSU knew the game had passed Les by and he wasn’t willing to adapt. Keeping him around would have just meant beating up on teams that we had outmatched in talent, but continuing to lose consistently to the top tier SEC teams that had a roster of similar talent level.
This post was edited on 10/18/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2106 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:19 pm to
Penn State was #1 for 75% of the season in 1999...
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