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Bigger NFL dumpster fire Jets or Browns?

Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:18 am
This is easily a low point in my life as a Jets fan.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:19 am to
The browns have a win on the board, a good defense, and made the playoffs a few years ago
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127714 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:20 am to
Jets

Browns have a decent defense and the best QB possibly in league history waiting on the bench
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43962 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:21 am to
Browns have a good coach
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
85837 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:11 am to
If it makes you feel any better, the Jets are the best 0-6 team of all time
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81210 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:25 am to
Jets are by far the worst on field product.

Browns have some good defense, good young skill players (Judkins , Fannon,) and a decent coach in Stefanski. The Watson deal just totally fricked them over badly.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
16674 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:28 am to
Yes
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:28 am to
Browns have a great defense. Jets have about couple of really good players.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4984 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:30 am to
Both make every stereotypical mistake that are the hallmarks of losing franchises.

Chasing splash hires and free agent signings. They build their teams counter to what actually sustains success, they chew through coaches and front office staff, they have no long term plan or team identity. They can't even get enough right to sustain mediocrity.

Right now, I'd say the Browns are in a better position because they play great defense and have a solid coaching staff top-to-bottom. The Jets have roster issues on both sides of the ball and a new staff just trying to figure things out.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
16674 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:35 am to
Yeah the Browns are a Top 10 defense at worst. #4 in overall yards per play and #1 in yards per rush. The points they give up are an indictment on the offense hanging them out to dry

The 13-10 GB game is a good flavor for who they are. They’re way better than NYJ
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10791 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:37 am to
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The Watson deal just totally fricked them over badly.


This is the Browns issue! That takes a few years to overcome due to the loss of draft picks and Watson sucking at football.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:57 am to
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This is the Browns issue! That takes a few years to overcome due to the loss of draft picks and Watson sucking at football.



Watson is going to consume $81 million against their cap next year. What an insanely bad deal.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40423 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:59 am to
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Jets are by far the worst on field product


I have for some reason watched two Jets games this year. They are one of the worst teams I've seen in a while. Justin Fields is so freaking bad. He thinks about passing for about .005 seconds and then is immediately looking to run. Tyrod Taylor is the backup and he ain't going to win you many games but I'd be calling for him if I was a Jets fan. Fields is so much worse than i thought.

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good young skill players (Judkins , Fannon,


Hall, Wilson, and Taylor. Jets have the skill players too. Unfortunately, they have Justin Fields.

Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4984 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:02 am to
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Fields is so much worse than i thought.


There's a reason the Steelers offered him just under $10 million a year to stick around and after Jets offered more and Fields agent reached back out to the Steelers their response was "that's okay, we're good".
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81210 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:07 am to
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Watson is going to consume $81 million against their cap next year. What an insanely bad deal.


Holy shite
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2705 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:08 am to
Garrett Wilson just hyperextended his knee and will miss a couple of games. If you thought Fields was bad before..
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81210 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:08 am to
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Hall, Wilson, and Taylor. Jets have the skill players too. Unfortunately, they have Justin Fields.



Good point. Garrett Wilson is a beast but sucks he has such a dogshit QB to work with. Fields absolutely blows.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4454 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:31 am to
Jets.

The Browns aren't that bad. They are decent QB play away from being a playoff contender.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
4454 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:38 am to
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Watson is going to consume $81 million against their cap next year.

Goddamn.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4984 posts
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:46 am to
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Goddamn.



For further entertainment. If the Browns were to cut Watson their dead-cap hit would be $172.3 million this year and $135.4 million in 2026. This is a team with about $12 million in free cap space.

So, they have to keep him on the roster and off the field for this year and next year or else their cap will be consumed by him.

They kept restructuring his contract and converting his contract to signing bonuses to avoid the cap hit each year. Next year they don't have any options left and have to absorb it. After '26 they're finally clear of him.
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