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Indians- WTH is their problem?& what would be their vision of this land w/o white man

Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:14 pm
I always wanted to ask the Indians, what they think this country would look like if the white man hadn’t settled & built the greatest country on earth.

I think the Indians would have us still living in teepees & skinning buffaloes for clothes.

Theses people were literally living in teepees and living primitive lives.

Do they think that had the whiteman not come that they would have held onto this land of theirs? That no one else would have come and taken it from them?

Do they think that they would have developed this land and brought industry and prosperity to it?


What exactly were they going to do with “their land”?
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
570 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:15 pm to
Native Americans were still living in the stone age when Europeans arrived... they hadn't even invented the wheel yet.

Think about it
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11392 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:17 pm to
Yep. You are correct. They had horses and that was it.


They act like they were some developing people they was on the cusp of greatness.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:19 pm to
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What exactly were they going to do with “their land”?


Good question... especially considering the fact that not all tribes had a concept for land ownership "their land".

They'd be the same as other untouched tribes.. or, would have been conquered by someone else.

I read an irritating article on NPR about Columbus Day vs Indigenous Peoples Day.

Something just occurred to me... they say white people aren't a "culture" because of the variety of "heritage"... how the hell do Indigenous Peoples have a culture considering they also have a very diverse heritage?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69156 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:19 pm to
The Inca were in the early bronze age. Most of North America was in the calcolothic. However, your point still stands.
Posted by statman34
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:20 pm to
First off:

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Secondly, yes.
Posted by Bamanjo
Member since Sep 2025
219 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:20 pm to
You should read the book 1491, about pre-European America. Their societies were far more advanced than you might think. By the time Europeans arrived en-mass most of their communities had been decimated by disease, so it was like arriving in medieval Europe right after a more intense version of the Black Death.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25916 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:21 pm to
Caste based discrimination and insular, nepotistic practices in hiring and management.

Indians pretty much commit bust outs like in The Sopranos to a business. One of them gets put into a decision making role in the company and its all over. The place then is "busted out" to serve as nothing more than a way to enrich Indians and friends/family of said Indians, specifically those in the same caste or village from India.

They purposely discriminate against non Indians in the hiring process. They only hire other Indians. If they do decide to interview a white, it will be a humiliation ritual only where they seek to belittle and embarrass the candidate without ever having any intention of moving the candidate forward. I've experienced this myself many times, sadly.

As far as non Indians who already work for the company, Indians are well known for stack ranking, a process where Indians band together and all give bad performance reviews to non Indians and automatic high ratings to Indians, and when it comes time for workforce reduction, the non Indians are let go because they have the worst ratings in the stack. This is what led to me being laid off at my last job, all the Indians stack ranked me low despite me winning employee of the quarter in the most recent quarter. 6 weeks after shaking the CEO's hand on stage for winning the award I was laid off.

I will never ever work for an Indian ever again. They are the worst managers to work for, period. Nothing you do is good enough and its as if their only role is to prove how superior they are to you.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30857 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

I always wanted to ask the Indians, what they think this country would look like if the white man hadn’t settled & built the greatest country on earth.

I think the Indians would have us still living in teepees & skinning buffaloes for clothes.

Theses people were literally living in teepees and living primitive lives.

Do they think that had the whiteman not come that they would have held onto this land of theirs? That no one else would have come and taken it from them?

Do they think that they would have developed this land and brought industry and prosperity to it?


They'd be dead or speaking Russian and the Russians wouldn't give a f#$k about their culture.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8290 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:23 pm to
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What exactly were they going to do with “their land”?


Kind of like Africa without England and France.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12334 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:26 pm to
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Their societies were far more advanced than you might think.


What are some notable examples of IP's advancements?
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11392 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:26 pm to
The white European is responsible for lifting more people out of abject poverty and thus increasing the life expectancy of the human race as a whole.


We need to celebrate us more
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12334 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:27 pm to
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Caste based discrimination and insular, nepotistic practices in hiring and management.


Feather or Dot? Both? I think this is a feather thread.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30857 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:27 pm to
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You should read the book 1491, about pre-European America. Their societies were far more advanced than you might think. By the time Europeans arrived en-mass most of their communities had been decimated by disease, so it was like arriving in medieval Europe right after a more intense version of the Black Death.


No they weren't. They were more advanced than Africa, but that ain't saying much.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11392 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:28 pm to
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What are some notable examples of IP's advancements?


As another poster stated: they didn’t even have the wheel.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1521 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:31 pm to
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They had horses and that was it


No they didn't. The horse was brought over by the Spanish. They were still walking everywhere.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12334 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:31 pm to
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As another poster stated: they didn’t even have the wheel.


I didn't reckon so... just giving the poster an opportunity to elaborate.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14400 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61267 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

You should read the book 1491, about pre-European America. Their societies were far more advanced than you might think. By the time Europeans arrived en-mass most of their communities had been decimated by disease, so it was like arriving in medieval Europe right after a more intense version of the Black Death.



What? They didn’t even have iron or use copper, knives were wooden, flint stone or bone.
They were very primitive
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
1465 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:34 pm to
I’m American Indian AMA. My dad was a liberal jack arse who would rather drink whiskey on the rez and act pious about the “environment” than raise his children. I’m American! After he left us he complained for the rest of his life about govt this or that owes him. He had a great job and we could have had a great life. In the end, he was weak.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 5:37 pm
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