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Communist Leaders Raised as Christians
Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:55 pm
So, interested in the correlation with the departure from Christianity from those raised as Christians to serve God to now demanding worship and obedience themselves, I asked ChatGPT to give me a list of communism’s leaders who were raised as Christians and this is what it provided.
I find this more than just a little coincidental that where the absence of God is, there will be an eventual authoritarianism that takes it’s place, and a new worship and religious adherence that will take place to supplant it.
Take from it what you will, but I see a lesson to be taken from this in the west as we now see the dark forces of godlessness take over in our now post-Christian world we now see before us, and as we now face very real real threats to free speech and the killings of people that some disagree with rather than with words and ideas used in civilized debate.
I find this more than just a little coincidental that where the absence of God is, there will be an eventual authoritarianism that takes it’s place, and a new worship and religious adherence that will take place to supplant it.
Take from it what you will, but I see a lesson to be taken from this in the west as we now see the dark forces of godlessness take over in our now post-Christian world we now see before us, and as we now face very real real threats to free speech and the killings of people that some disagree with rather than with words and ideas used in civilized debate.
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Karl Marx (1818–1883) — Germany
• Upbringing: Born to a Jewish family that converted to Lutheranism for legal reasons.
• Christian influence: Baptized as a Lutheran; educated with Christian ethics and Bible study.
• Later stance: Became a staunch atheist. Called religion “the opium of the people,” but his moral critiques often echoed Christian concern for the poor and oppressed.
Friedrich Engels (1820–1895) — Germany
• Upbringing: Raised in a devout Protestant (Calvinist/Pietist) family.
• Christian influence: Familiar with the Bible and religious discipline.
• Later stance: Rejected Christianity and wrote The Peasant War in Germany, linking Protestantism’s revolt to early class struggles.
Vladimir Lenin (1870–1924) — Russia
• Upbringing: Baptized and nominally raised in the Russian Orthodox Church.
• Christian influence: Studied Bible stories as a child; his mother was sincerely religious.
• Later stance: Fierce atheist and anti-clerical; led the Bolshevik Revolution and established state atheism.
Joseph Stalin (1878–1953) — Georgia (USSR)
• Upbringing: Attended an Orthodox seminary to train as a priest.
• Christian influence: Deeply familiar with scripture, ritual, and church hierarchy.
• Later stance: Renounced religion, expelled from seminary for “revolutionary tendencies.” Later oversaw brutal persecution of clergy, though he sometimes invoked Christian imagery (e.g., “father of nations”).
Mao Zedong (1893–1976) — China
• Upbringing: Attended a Christian missionary school.
• Christian influence: Exposed to Christian ethics and Western humanism through missionary teachers.
• Later stance: Denounced religion as superstition; promoted strict materialism and cult of personality.
Fidel Castro (1926–2016) — Cuba
• Upbringing: Educated by Jesuit priests; baptized Catholic.
• Christian influence: Jesuit training emphasized discipline, social justice, and anti-imperialism.
• Later stance: Declared Cuba atheist under Marxism-Leninism, though later softened and allowed religious freedom; met Popes John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and Francis.
Ho Chi Minh (1890–1969) — Vietnam
• Upbringing: Attended a French Catholic school in Hue.
• Christian influence: Learned French, Western history, and some Catholic teachings.
• Later stance: Became an atheist and communist leader; however, used moral and spiritual rhetoric to appeal to both Buddhists and Christians in Vietnam.
Antonio Gramsci (1891–1937) — Italy
• Upbringing: Born to a Catholic family in Sardinia.
• Christian influence: Familiar with Catholic rituals and moral teachings.
• Later stance: Rejected religion intellectually but drew on Christian concepts like sacrifice and moral duty in his theory of “cultural hegemony.”
Rosa Luxemburg (1871–1919) — Poland
• Upbringing: Jewish family in a Catholic environment.
• Christian influence: Immersed in Christian cultural surroundings, even if not practicing.
• Later stance: Militant atheist; her compassion for the oppressed echoed Christian social ethics.
Nicolae Ceau?escu (1918–1989) — Romania
• Upbringing: Born into a poor Orthodox Christian family.
• Christian influence: Grew up in a deeply religious culture.
• Later stance: Atheist and dictator; suppressed religion but used Orthodox symbolism for nationalist propaganda.
Mengistu Haile Mariam (b. 1937) — Ethiopia
• Upbringing: Ethiopian Orthodox Christian family.
• Christian influence: Raised with church traditions, rituals, and hierarchies.
• Later stance: Adopted Marxist-Leninist atheism; violently repressed the Church.
Salvador Allende (1908–1973) — Chile
• Upbringing: Born into a middle-class family with Catholic cultural ties.
• Christian influence: Educated in Catholic-influenced Chilean schools.
• Later stance: Marxist socialist but not militantly anti-religious; maintained cordial relations with progressive clergy.
Daniel Ortega (b. 1945) — Nicaragua
• Upbringing: Raised Catholic.
• Christian influence: Deeply influenced by Catholic social teaching and liberation theology.
• Later stance: Blends Marxism with Christian rhetoric; often cites Jesus as a revolutionary figure
Kim Il Sung (1912–1994)
• Upbringing:
• Born to a devout Christian family in Pyongyang (then under Japanese rule).
• His parents were Protestant Christians — his father, Kim Hyong-jik, was a lay preacher and teacher; his mother, Kang Pan-sok, was a practicing Presbyterian who reportedly taught Sunday school.
• Pyongyang at that time was known as “the Jerusalem of the East,” because it had one of the largest concentrations of Christians in Asia (especially Presbyterians and Methodists).
• Christian influence:
• Young Kim Il Sung attended mission schools founded by American and Korean Christians.
• He was familiar with Bible stories and Christian hymns.
• His early political ideas about justice, sacrifice, and moral duty likely drew on that environment — even as he turned toward Marxism-Leninism in the 1930s.
• Later stance:
• Rejected Christianity entirely.
• After taking power in 1948, he eradicated organized religion, destroyed churches, and persecuted clergy.
• Christianity was replaced with Juche, his own ideological system — a kind of political religion emphasizing national self-reliance and absolute loyalty to the leader.
• Many scholars note that Juche mirrors Christian structure:
• Kim Il Sung as a “messianic” savior figure,
• portraits replacing icons,
• rituals and hymns devoted to the Kims,
• and “sacred” texts (his collected works) replacing scripture
Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:57 pm to Mike da Tigah
Martin Luther King and Martin Luther King Jr.
Not their real names BTW
Not their real names BTW
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:03 pm to Mike da Tigah
TL:DR, hell is loaded with murdering communists.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:05 pm to Mike da Tigah
So the answer is don't leave the church?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:07 pm to chryso
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So the answer is don't leave the church?
Don’t believe man’s words. Believe God’s, and he clearly lays out that man’s problems are man created. Man’s the problem, not God.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:09 pm to Mike da Tigah
One thing is common among most of them. They became a world leader and ran as a brutal authoritarian, which is against Christian doctrine. My take is the power corrupted their thought process and they rejected it.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:14 pm to Tigergreg
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My take is the power corrupted their thought process and they rejected it.
They had to wage war against religion because they had to be the final authority. I'm sure there are nascent dictatorial personalities in American politics today. Why should we be any different?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:32 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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They had to wage war against religion because they had to be the final authority.
Well said.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:50 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Rosa Luxemburg (1871–1919) — Poland
• Upbringing: Jewish family in a Catholic environment.
• Christian influence: Immersed in Christian cultural surroundings, even if not practicing.
• Later stance: Militant atheist; her compassion for the oppressed echoed Christian social ethics.
This post is almost laughable.... so any Jew living in Europe is now not a jew and is really acting on compassionate christian values. So this is every Jew in Europe at the time.
Do 7 of top 9 Bolshevik leaders? All Jews acting like christians..
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:03 pm to Mike da Tigah
Flush those turds down the drain!
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:08 pm to Mike da Tigah
Dang, all the big names are on that list
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:22 pm to DerkaDerka
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Dang, all the big names are on that list
Just like Satan was an Angel of God.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 5:02 pm to Mike da Tigah
Pride is the common denominator among ALL atheists.
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