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Wallstreetbets is a blood bath

Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:41 am
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:41 am
A lot of these bros about to find out what happens in a bear market.

I actually feel bad, so many of these people are convinced to put their entire life savings into high-risk options and are getting their face ripped off. At the same time im glad to see some of these smug people who think they hacked finance by buying high risk options in a bull run.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:45 am to
A good lesson to never go too large on short dated calls.
Always consider what your total portfolio would look like if they go down 90%

For many, it was their total portfolio (I’m just guessing here).
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:58 am to
quote:

A lot of these bros about to find out what happens in a bear market.
”you know, I got this investing thing down pack baby. I’m up 5000% with options and leverage all in tech”

“Cool, how long have you been at it? 30 years?”

“Naw man, started in July 2022”


:-|
Posted by LSUcam7
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:04 am to
Really a good lesson for 90% of retail options buyers to not play options.

If this isnt the lesson they will learn. Humbling little frickers, options are.

But to OP.. this isn’t the start of a bear. Too much cash flowing right now.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:19 am to
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this isn’t the start of a bear. Too much cash flowing right now.
That’s what I keep reading.
Those who missed out on the post tariff recovery are itching to get in.
That about right?
Posted by LSUcam7
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:25 am to
Theres undebatable data that supports that. Retail has been on it this year. Institutions have been buying higher.

Hyperscalers aren’t about to turn the cash spigot off either. At some point but not because Trump is going after China.

If anything it’s going to ramp up the AI race against our most legitimate competition.

But nothing is ever a sure thing. Maybe I’m dead off here.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:55 am to
They're still living off the GameStop rally.

Just because they beat a colossally stupid hedge fund once doesn't mean they can play stupid games now.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:55 am to
I got lucky taking a lot of profits early in the morning expecting a Friday rip and slide. I was correct, but should have bought puts. Unfortunately I was busy doing other shite. Saw a guy on WSB bought $500 of 0DTEs 669p immediately before the Trump tweet and sold for $25k
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:59 am to
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Saw a guy on WSB bought $500 of 0DTEs 669p immediately before the Trump tweet and sold for $25k


Either knew something or got lucky.

Even if you know the price will drop you don't know when it will happen. You're basically timing the market when you do options.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Either knew something or got lucky.

That was lucky. Would have been way more if he knew anything. I occasionally open $500 0DTE positions, especially on Fridays

There was a 9 figure bitcoin short position opened 30 mins before the Trump Tweet in a brand new crypto account. Made $192MM in profits when the position was closed. That was an insider
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:14 pm to
Always a good reminder that in a bull market everyone thinks they’re smarter than they really are and very few can actually beat the market consistently.

I’d like to learn more about options but also at the same time know you can lose your shirt pretty quickly.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:17 pm to
Most people winning in this market are still up massively even if they held through yesterday’s blood bath. It’s worth the risk to ride the wave rather than sit back and hope for a good entry point. You’re unlikely to catch the top or the bottom
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:20 pm to
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I occasionally open $500 0DTE positions, especially on Fridays


How do you do that? I've never done anything other than straight stocks.

Friday is smart because bad news is usually announced on Friday. I wouldn't mind throwing a small amount at something like that. $10 would have turned into $500.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:24 pm to
I wouldn’t recommend starting with that. If you haven’t done options before, you need to watch some youtube. Options 101 or Options Theory type stuff. Just learn the basics and mechanics
You’re also highly likely to lose on 0DTE options. That $500 is likely to go to $0 at the end of the day. I don’t wait for that to happen
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23476 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:37 pm to
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How do you do that? I've never done anything other than straight stocks.
Buy a put that expires on the same day. NOT recommended.

If you want to learn options start with a call that is 90-120 days til expiry with a strike price that is near the money.

You’d probably want to start with a delta near .5 or higher.
Go with a company with high options volume, but more stable than TSLA or NBIS.

Maybe INTC or GOOG.
INTC isn’t as much per share as GOOG so there’s lower barrier to entry.

If you have no idea what any of this means look up the terms on your favorite Chatbot.

Edit to add: Set a price target and sell.
20-30%
But mostly, study the way it moves with the stock.
And watch out for earnings.That could make it a gamble because it’s a binary event.

ETA 2: Know when you’ve lost. If you’re inside of about 3 weeks until expiry and down 30% or more it’s time to close out and move on, or rollout to a later date (unless you think earnings can save you and you’re willing to lose it all to wait and see).

By far, the most infuriating options trades are where you’re doing the “right” thing by selling at a loss, then the stock jumps 40% before expiry.
That will happen. But it’s all about risk management. It won’t happen most of the time.

ETA 3: Replace INTC with SOFI. It’s near the same price per share but a much better stock to own or trade
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Penn
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 1:47 pm to
Marking for use in future
Thanks BB88
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:29 pm to
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But to OP.. this isn’t the start of a bear. Too much cash flowing right now


I don't know and you don't know when the bear market will come, but my point was they get a taste of what happens with their insanely risky option strategy in bear markets.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23476 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:30 pm to
FWIW, I trust his macro opinion better than my own.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:31 pm to
This is good info, i can't stress enough, if you want to start with options, DON'T START WITH NAKED OPTIONS. This way you can see when you would have gotten smoked, without actually getting smoked.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23476 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:48 pm to
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if you want to start with options, DON'T START WITH NAKED OPTIONS.
I would imagine that those who start wouldn’t be approved for naked?

But yes, beginners should start at Level 1 and in my opinion, level 1 is enough!
Once you start getting into spreads, iron condors, and beyond then I don’t see how you’d have time to do anything else!
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