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WSJ: The Urban Crime Spike Is Real
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:41 pm
WSJ
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In 2019, before George Floyd, pandemic closures and the defund-the-police movement, the rate of violent crime in urban areas was roughly identical to the rate nationwide. In 2024, the rate of violent crime in urban areas was 46% higher than the nationwide rate and 104% higher—more than double—the rural rate. Property crime has long been more prevalent in cities than elsewhere, but that gap has widened. In 2019 the property-crime rate was 51% higher in urban areas than it was nationwide; in 2024 it was 86% higher. The number of property-crime victimizations in 2024 per 1,000 households was 181.6 in urban areas, 96.1 in suburban areas, and 48.3 in rural areas.
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Rather than relying on police reports, the National Crime Victimization Survey asks U.S. residents whether they were a crime victim in recent months. If so, it asks about the nature of the crime, the demographics of those involved, and whether the crime was reported to police. The nation’s largest crime survey, it has been conducted since the Nixon administration.
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In the District of Columbia, the number of homicides rose 13% from 2019 to 2024 and 61% from 2017 to 2024. In Portland, Ore., homicides almost doubled from 2019 to 2024, to 71 from 36. While it’s true that both these cities had even more murders in 2021 and 2022 than in 2024, that shows how high their murder numbers spiked before falling back down somewhat
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:43 pm to Nevada_Tiger
You mean more human things happened once the world reopened after a worldwide pandemic?
Color me shocked.
Color me shocked.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:46 pm to The_Duke
No, thats not what we mean
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:46 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Nature deficit disorder is real!!
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:47 pm to Feelthebarn
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No, thats not what we mean
But that's precisely what that means: they are comparing a time when the world was locked down to now.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:52 pm to The_Duke
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But that's precisely what that means: they are comparing a time when the world was locked down to now.
No that is the opposite. Reading comprehension is hard evidently.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:52 pm to Timeoday
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Nature deficit disorder is real!!
violent crime in urban areas increased by 61% from 2019 to 2024.
How is that a deflect? This is directly from the article. Why would you pick an abnormal time period, worldwide shutdown, to begin your data point?
Why not start with data from 2015?
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:52 pm to The_Duke
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You mean more human things happened once the world reopened after a worldwide pandemic? Color me shocked.
Imagine going through life being this fricking stupid.Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:54 pm to Warboo
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No that is the opposite. Reading comprehension is hard evidently.
Sure, enlightened one--the Op Ed is using data from 2019-2024.
I wonder what has changed in the human experience from then to now.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:55 pm to Chancellor
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Imagine going through life being this fricking stupid.
I liked your post for you. Hope that makes your day
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:56 pm to The_Duke
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they are comparing a time when the world was locked down to now.
Uh, no. Covid shutdowns and Summer of Floyd were 2020. They are explicitly comparing 2019 (and before) to now.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:06 pm to Nevada_Tiger
Now WSJ, tell us who is committing those crimes.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:06 pm to M. A. Ryland
The COVID-19 shutdown was in March--I recall watching the game when it happened.
I can't figure out how to link the image of the full graph of the crime rate, but here's an overview and why I find it werid for them to cherry pick those years.
1993-1995: Very High Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 70 to 80 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 or older)
1996-1998: High But Less Than Very High Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 50 to 70 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 or older)
1999-2003: Moderate Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 30 to 50 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 and older)
2004-2023: Low Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 16 to 30 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 and older)
I can't figure out how to link the image of the full graph of the crime rate, but here's an overview and why I find it werid for them to cherry pick those years.
1993-1995: Very High Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 70 to 80 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 or older)
1996-1998: High But Less Than Very High Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 50 to 70 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 or older)
1999-2003: Moderate Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 30 to 50 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 and older)
2004-2023: Low Rates of Violent Crime (in the range of 16 to 30 violent crimes per 1,000 persons age 12 and older)
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:07 pm to The_Duke
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I liked your post for you. Hope that makes your day
I’m proud of you for being able to identify the pictures of the up and down arrows and understanding what to do with them.
Now, if we could get you understanding what all these fricking letters mean and how to decipher them and comprehend their meaning, we’d for sure be accomplishing something.
Note to whomever is reading this to ol’ Duke: be sure to read it in a condescending tone and then point and laugh at him.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:14 pm to The_Duke
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Why not start with data from 2015?
They did reference pre pandemic crime #s in DC.
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In the District of Columbia, the number of homicides rose 13% from 2019 to 2024 and 61% from 2017 to 2024. I
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:15 pm to The_Duke
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You mean more human things happened once the world reopened after a worldwide pandemic? Color me shocked.
Funny how 13% of the population is a majority of it.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:18 pm to Chancellor
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I’m proud of you for being able to identify the pictures of the up and down arrows and understanding what to do with them.
Now, if we could get you understanding what all these fricking letters mean and how to decipher them and comprehend their meaning, we’d for sure be accomplishing something.
Note to whomever is reading this to ol’ Duke: be sure to read it in a condescending tone and then point and laugh at him.
Man you are so cool--I bet you get a lot of poon.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:59 pm to The_Duke
You sound dumb as frick in this thread.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:54 pm to The_Duke
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The COVID-19 shutdown was in March--I recall watching the game when it happened.
Yes it was in March. March of 2020 jackass. I know cause I had to reschedule my wedding. And it was actually very end of March/beginning of April.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:55 pm to The_Duke
double post delete
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 10:02 pm
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