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Who is more stubborn: Les or Kelly?
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:06 pm
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Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:07 pm to MandeTiger
Les, he was fired.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:09 pm to MandeTiger
Les by a wide margin. At least Kelly has a willingness to correct his mistakes although it may usually be a year late.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:11 pm to MandeTiger
No one will ever reach the stubbornness level of Miles. He went years without making a single adjustment to the offense. Les is the guy that said you have to attack a team where they’re strongest, and this was after he got beat 21-0 by doing just that in the national championship game. Thats elite levels of stubborn when you still believe you were right after getting fired for it.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:13 pm to koLSU86
Les, and it’s not even remotely close
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:21 pm to MandeTiger
Kelly followed up a NCG appearance in 2012 with a CFP appearance in 2018 because he could adapt to modern CFB
Les was fired in 2016 after his 2011 NCG appearance because he couldn't adapt
Les was fired in 2016 after his 2011 NCG appearance because he couldn't adapt
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:35 pm to MandeTiger
Les Miles without a doubt was more stubborn.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:38 pm to geauxpurple
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At least Kelly has a willingness to correct his mistakes although it may usually be a year late
Kelly should have learned from his House mistake
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:39 pm to MandeTiger
Les
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:46 pm to MandeTiger
If Les actually changed his offense there’s a high chance he would still be here. Or lasted a lot longer than he did till the allegations came out. He knew how to run a program, and recruited at a high level. Just refused to change with the times when it came to the offensive side of the ball. Which is crazy to think about because he was considered an offensive guy
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:48 pm to MandeTiger
Is there a difference? Is the admin gonna have to step in and hire an OC for him the way they did with Les and the DC?
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:49 pm to Madking
man no shite eh? remember LSU made les keep jimbo. and les wanted to bring his DC bill clay from okie lite. LSU said f no and made him hire pellini. which worked out great.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:52 pm to Fat Bastard
We also had to do it for Orgeron. It’s speaks to the type of people we hire here
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:54 pm to Madking
You can trash Miles and Orgeron, but both won titles. I doubt Kelly ever makes the playoffs here. He is lost in this era.
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:56 pm to Sofaking2
Not trashing them I’m stating facts about their tenure. We tend to hire more rah rah guys who aren’t necessarily expert at any side of the ball and are sometimes inept in that department.
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