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Media Gaslighting AGAIN on this Kimmel/free speech.Preying on uneducated in our society

Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:48 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11679 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:48 am
Muhh…FREE SPEEECH…OUR RIGHTS BEING ERODED.

The general American populace are morons and have not been properly educated.

So let me give a brief civic lesson to the rubes that may be on this board.



Freedom of speech grants the right to speak, but it doesn't shield you from the fallout. Say what you want, but actions have reactions—social, legal, or otherwise. Take Jimmy Kimmel's recent suspension: after his edgy monologue on the Charlie Kirk killing, ABC yanked his show indefinitely amid FCC threats and affiliate boycotts, a textbook case of private and regulatory consequences biting back.

Morons who think "free speech" means "no consequences" miss the point: words carry weight, and society responds. Meanwhile, the American left media is using this Jimmy Kimmel deal to gaslight the rubes in our society that lack basic understanding of basic civics, pretending government pressure is the sole villain while ignoring how networks always cave to backlash—distorting the First Amendment into a fairy tale of total impunity.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1867 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:52 am to
no the real problem is the american have stopped watching those shows only 5 million people watched those shows less than 600k of that audience was under the age of 50. that's why they're being cancelled.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22705 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:54 am to
Fact is, jimmys take on the killer being MAGA is exactly the type of rhetoric that led to the murder. He and others have simply gotten away with - and have no doubt been directed to say - all of their blatant lies that have no logical standing.

In a non clown world, there would be zero controversy around the Kimmel situation.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30983 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:55 am to
The sad part is Disney is using Charlie Kirk’s death to get out of a terrible contract.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66653 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:56 am to
FCC shouldn’t be driving this, but affiliates pulling out is the market at work.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27748 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:57 am to
Kimmel thought it was hilarious when Tucker was fired

Megyn Kelly was fired but no one said anything



But if you are a leftist lunatic it's the end of the world
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Freedom of speech grants the right to speak, but it doesn't shield you from the fallout.


To a degree. It doesn't protect you from the fallout from a private employer, but it does protect you from the fallout from the federal or state government. The Kimmel situation is toeing the line IMO.

If ABC acted alone with no government influence, then I 100% agree with you. The first amendment is completely irrelevant to the conversation. If the FCC threatened ABC and forced their hand then the first amendment absolutely comes into play.

The question then becomes whether Kimmel was engaged in speech that is protected under the first amendment.

To use an analogy, if Chicken decided to ban you for criticizing the Biden administration, nobody in their right mind would argue that that is a violation of the first amendment. Tigerdroppings is a private message board and Chicken can ban you for whatever he wants. If, however, Chicken banned you for criticizing the Biden administration because the Biden administration threatened to shut Tigerdroppings down if he didn't ban you, that's a whole nother ball of wax and absolutely implicates the first amendment.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11112 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:04 am to
It’s well within the FCCs scope, they just have been turning a blind eye.

quote:

Any license granted by us at the FCC, that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest,” the chairman explained. “You can make a strong argument that this is sort of an intentional effort to mislead the American people, about a very core, fundamental fact, of a very important matter,” Carr said of Kimmel’s remarks about Kirk’s alleged killer.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9178 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Muhh…FREE SPEEECH…OUR RIGHTS BEING ERODED.



I love all the idiots on the left who keep spouting this...Someone smartly pointed out last night - Free Speech means you don't get arrested (by the Government). It doesn't mean there are not public and private repercussions. People are fired for violating employment policies as we've witnessed. You can be sued for slander as well.

I also love the term 'accountability culture' -- We've needed it for a while. No one was digging up old tweets of Kimmel using the 'N' word, dressing in blackface. This was something said politically.

Finally, saying he 'is a comedian'... he once was a comedian - This is why its allowed for parody and irony. Kimmel and Colbert (and Steward, Noah, etc.) have become 'agents provocateur' for the left, hiding behind comedy, thinking they are immune.

Market forces, forced Kimmel off the air.

I cannot believe how fast this nation is healing... never would I imagine it would only be 9 months into the Trump Administration.

MAGA Forever.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32309 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:06 am to
ABC wanted to get rid of Kimmel, this has nothing to do with free speech or cancel culture. They dont want to piss off the FCC with the deal they're with TENGA.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4482 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:06 am to
You give up free speech when you sign your work for a media company. It's their rules at that point.

He wasn't on a street corner or some protest. He was at work, on their property, under their employment, representing them.

What dont they understand
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7201 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:13 am to
Now if only the Browns can figure out a way to get out of the DeShaun Watson contract.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17683 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:16 am to
Media preys on the uneducated 24/7. Have you ever watched a soap opera or an NFL football game?
Posted by Mick Hogger
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2020
627 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:17 am to
I remember conservatives being policed and banned from Twitter.

I remember Rosanne losing her spot at the head of her own show.

Gina Carano fired from Disney

They tried to cancel the uncancellable Dave Chappell

MyPillows removed from retailers

Even non conservative Joe Rogan was targeted

Screw these people
Posted by Jackie Daytona
Member since Sep 2020
667 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

no the real problem is the american have stopped watching those shows only 5 million people watched those shows less than 600k of that audience was under the age of 50. that's why they're being cancelled.


This is a good point. If people still watched Late Night TV, both Kimmel and Colbert would still be on. They just needed an excuse and they can get on the good side of the President by doing so. Win-win.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22657 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Morons who think "free speech" means "no consequences" miss the point: words carry weight, and society responds. Meanwhile, the American left media is using this Jimmy Kimmel deal to gaslight the rubes in our society that lack basic understanding of basic civics, pretending government pressure is the sole villain while ignoring how networks always cave to backlash—distorting the First Amendment into a fairy tale of total impunity.



It's not even about social consequences for free speech. He went out and basically did exactly what Alex Jones did and absolutely none of them are going to defend Jones today. You can't just go out and lie about people- that is not 'free' speech by definition
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:21 am to
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If ABC acted alone with no government influence, then I 100% agree with you. The first amendment is completely irrelevant to the conversation.


This is the case. Kimmel's ratings were in the tank and he was going to be canceled eventually anyway. The local ABC affiliates were refusing to air Kimmel's show after this.

quote:

If the FCC threatened ABC and forced their hand then the first amendment absolutely comes into play.



The "FCC" didn't threaten anyone. A single FCC commissioner, 1 of 5, made some comments. He has one vote. The "FCC" as a regulatory body did nothing regarding Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel.

But, even if that were the case, the FCC is a regulatory body whose sole purpose is to regulate broadcast television and radio. It is 100 percent within their purview to investigate and ensure that no rules were being broken.

If any investigation into TV shows is a violation of free speech, then why do we even have the FCC?
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9403 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:23 am to
I think I would say it differently. The Bill of Rights protects the citizen from the government. It limits governmental authority, but has little implication for the relationship between you and your employer. The laws governing employer-employee relationships are largely left to the states, with some notable exceptions.

The notion that ABC as a private employer has violated Kimmel's first amendment protections seem preposterous. Private employers often require NDA agreements as a condition of employment. They can absolutely control what you can and can't say, and if you violate that, they can fire you and even seek damages.

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20475 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:24 am to
I think Charlie would have pointed out to you it’s not a problem of education, it’s about wisdom. People can be educated but not wise.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22705 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:24 am to
quote:

FCC shouldn’t be driving this, but affiliates pulling out is the market at work.


It’s a regulated market, FCC is the regulator. Mainstream media has been a threat to national security for too long, IMO this is within their scope. They can lie and say this is about saying mean things regarding Trump, but it’s untrue. This situation, along with virtually all others is centered around ideological violence, fostered by liars like Kimmel.
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