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Kellen Moore not taking ownership for poor clock management before the half
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:31 pm
There's no excuse for not using your timeouts while Cardinals were driving. Not surprised he's making mistakes since its his first game as a HC, but its alarming he would not take accountability.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:34 pm to High Life
Only valid reason is if he didn't want to put Rattler in a 2-minute offense before half
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:38 pm to High Life
He's not going to expressly say, I didn't want to leave time on the clock to let AZ turn a 17-10 lead into a 24-10 lead, because I'm not fully confidence my offense would be able to execute.
Moore knows he has an uphill battle with either QB. It is what it is. It's unlikely the Saints are going to have many games where the offense explodes, and they can simply score enough to run away from teams. The Saints path to victory is playing good defense and trying to make enough plays on offense to win close games. That means keeping it a one-score game going into HT was probably a better option than thinking his offense was going to move quickly and score before the half.
Now, Rattler's performance in the 2:00 situation to at least give the Saints a chance may change his thinking. But in Game 1, at that point in the game, I would be dollars to donuts his thinking late in the 1st half (regardless of what he said) was "let's make sure this stays a one score game and try to win it in the second half, starting with us getting ball first."
The likelihood of the risk: going down 10-14 points before the half, outweighed the likelihood of the reward, the Saints scoring before the half.
Moore knows he has an uphill battle with either QB. It is what it is. It's unlikely the Saints are going to have many games where the offense explodes, and they can simply score enough to run away from teams. The Saints path to victory is playing good defense and trying to make enough plays on offense to win close games. That means keeping it a one-score game going into HT was probably a better option than thinking his offense was going to move quickly and score before the half.
Now, Rattler's performance in the 2:00 situation to at least give the Saints a chance may change his thinking. But in Game 1, at that point in the game, I would be dollars to donuts his thinking late in the 1st half (regardless of what he said) was "let's make sure this stays a one score game and try to win it in the second half, starting with us getting ball first."
The likelihood of the risk: going down 10-14 points before the half, outweighed the likelihood of the reward, the Saints scoring before the half.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:39 pm to blizzle
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Only valid reason is if he didn't want to put Rattler in a 2-minute offense before half
Thats a dumbass reason. Not a valid reason. He had a brain fart and he didn't have the nuts to admit it.
Everyone is talking about it being an oopsie but this board wont acknowledge it.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:48 pm to Alt26
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He's not going to expressly say, I didn't want to leave time on the clock to let AZ turn a 17-10 lead into a 24-10 lead, because I'm not fully confidence my offense would be able to execute.
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The likelihood of the risk: going down 10-14 points before the half, outweighed the likelihood of the reward, the Saints scoring before the half.
bullshite. You're a professional football team and you're playing scared? Rattler gave us a chance to win. Penalties and poor game management killed us.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:54 pm to High Life
yup. that was a greenhorn frickup. if he did not admit it that is even worse.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:59 pm to High Life
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take accountability
You mean “take responsibility”?
Accountability is another one of those words that everyone misuses now. Lol
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:08 pm to cbree88
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You mean “take responsibility”?
Accountability is another one of those words that everyone misuses now. Lol
No dumbass you can use accountability and responsibility synonymously. Get a dictionary
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To have accountability means accepting responsibility for your actions and decisions, taking ownership of both successes and failures, and being willing to explain and justify them to others.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:09 pm to Fat Bastard
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yup. that was a greenhorn frickup. if he did not admit it that is even worse.
Finally. Someone on this board is willing to be objective
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:35 pm to High Life
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No dumbass you can use accountability and responsibility synonymously. Get a dictionary
No they can’t, because they have slightly different meanings.
However, I looked it up and it looks like you are correct in this particular instance. Responsibility is normally used before an action is taken and accountability is used after an action has been taken and consequences have happened.
My apologies.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:37 pm to High Life
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bullshite. You're a professional football team and you're playing scared? Rattler gave us a chance to win. Penalties and poor game management killed us.
I agree only hope is that he learns from it.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:39 pm to Alt26
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He's not going to expressly say, I didn't want to leave time on the clock to let AZ turn a 17-10 lead into a 24-10 lead, because I'm not fully confidence my offense would be able to execute.
I watched it go down. Your explanation makes sense. But, I honestly don't even think he considered calling the timeouts while we were still on defense. I'm basing that on the way that he answered the question when he was asked.
If he had said, "It's the first game of the year, we are getting the ball back after halftime, I just thought it was best at this time to play it conservative. There will certainly be other times when we will be more aggressive in a similar situation." then we would know what the reason was and at least have confidence that he's not overwhelmed with the situation.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:39 pm to High Life
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bullshite. You're a professional football team and you're playing scared? Rattler gave us a chance to win. Penalties and poor game management killed us.
Is it scared or smart?
What is there is a penalty or two on the two minute drive and we’re punting back to them with 1:30 left. He knew we weren’t coming back from being double digit deficit.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:48 pm to cbree88
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No they can’t, because they have slightly different meanings.
synonyms sometimes have slightly different meanings
Dictionary
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:01 pm to St Augustine
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Is it scared or smart?
Neither I think it was a brain fart. They asked him about it before half and his reasoning made no sense and then he changed his answer post game.
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What is there is a penalty or two on the two minute drive and we’re punting back to them with 1:30 left. He knew we weren’t coming back from being double digit deficit.
Ok why not take a timeout at 1:00 minute or less? He had multiple opportunities. There's no excuse. Just own it. Its sad that yall are defending this.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:03 pm to High Life
We don't have a high powered offense and nothing in the first half showed that you can go down quickly and score. If you go quick 3 and out you give Cardinals ball back with time to score again, and they were moving the ball and had just scored 2 drives in a row. Why give them a chance with momentum to make it 3 in a row. Take your licks, take a break and regroup only one score down.
I was fine with taking it to half and getting ball back.
I was fine with taking it to half and getting ball back.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:03 pm to TigerBait2008
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TigerBait2008
You have any insight to add? Of course you don't bitch
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:06 pm to High Life
He all but said he did not want to make any mistakes and make it worse. he said that they had 3 timeouts too...meaning he didn't want to go 3 and out and give them the ball back.
People do not understand what is happening right now. They don't want to.
They are biding time until they think Shough is ready. They do not believe in or trust Rattler. That's what the deal is.
They aren't worried about winning that much
People do not understand what is happening right now. They don't want to.
They are biding time until they think Shough is ready. They do not believe in or trust Rattler. That's what the deal is.
They aren't worried about winning that much
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:10 pm to High Life
He had 2-3 chances to call a timeout with plays run in between. IMO that was intentional, because other coordinators are also in his ear, but we'll never know for sure.
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