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When did country die?

Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:49 am
Posted by TheCenLACouyon
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:49 am
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Posted by Tangineck
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:10 am to
Nashville sold out, but country music didn't die and never will. It's still out there and very easily accessible if you learn how to venture outside of what record labels want you to hear. The problem is "modern" country is more profitable. Pull up Chris Knight or Sturgill Simpson on Youtube and tell me that isn't country music.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:27 am to
Love Chris knight. Also check out Slaid Cleaves.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:54 am to
1985 or so.
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Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:00 am to
I’ve been told Garth Brooks was the fork in the road. Not sure if true but I can see it being a possible opinion worth discussing.

Something like he had good country music, but “Popped Up” the entertainment factor.

“Country music” today is mostly awful, and trashier, which is sting something. That’s for sure.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:19 am to



Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

ve been told Garth Brooks was the fork in the road.


I feel like Shania Twain was as much of the fork in the road, if not more, than Garth Brooks. While he ramped up the entertainment factor, her music had more pop to it than his, and she seemed to have more cross over radio play than he did.

These two may have been the fork in the road, but it really fell off the cliff when Big and Rich emerged.
Posted by TheCenLACouyon
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:19 pm to
I can't do Sturgil. I don't recall if he can sing but as an acoustic guitarist, Justin Johnson is very good. He's more bluesy vibes. I checked out Slaid, kind of reminds of an early country Bob Dylan.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

These two may have been the fork in the road,

Twain is a good addition. I did look up when both Garth and her hit national prominence, and Garth was 5 yrs earlier. 89/90 and Twain was 95ish. So perhaps she was the first one down the bad road that Garth forked. Especially since she Canadian.
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but it really fell off the cliff when Big and Rich emerged.
ESPN GameDay definitely didnt help prevent that fall

Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:35 pm to
Two words. Garth.Brooks.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:15 pm to
Listen to John Rich on the Shawn Ryan Show. He said in the early Obama years new record label big wigs from Hollywood and LA came to Nashville, fired people, and completely changed the country culture. They had a direct hand in what came out on the radio and owned the artist like never before.

The more I think about it, the culture did change. In the late 90s and early 2000s you had a ton of patriotic Toby Keith type songs, but when is the last time you had a new “America” song play on the radio. I’m drawing a blank except for “Made in America” by Toby Keith back in 2010
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30732 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:18 pm to
It wasn't Obama. He had nothing to do with anything, but the people who ruined it, mostly voted for him.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:20 pm to
I’m not saying he did. It was a reference to the time period when California invaded Nashville’s music scene.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30732 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I’m not saying he did. It was a reference to the time period when California invaded Nashville’s music scene.

Well, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Remember Allen Jackson's song "Gone Country", He had a big hit and made money telling the truth.
Add Murder on Music Row as well.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Fiddler crab
South in winter North in summer
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:29 pm to
Noticed a shift toward more pop/rock influence and mass marketing in the mid-‘80s. Until then, I’d spent several years touring internationally on fiddle with country acts out of Nashville. By 1985, I was getting many more requests to double string lines with a keyboard rather than fiddle with a pedal steel. Cut back on road work and did more demo recordings of new country, including some of Garth’s material. By the ‘90s, I was fiddling more bluegrass than country and feeling that country music as I’d known it was dead.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:33 pm to
Yep, great one, it released in 1991 when artists could still freely speak their mind. Now they’re controlled like a dog on a leash. I believe the point of no return for mainstream country happened in the late 2000s. You still had some decent country almost into the 2010s, but after that point country took a nose dive. It tried to hard be pop music hence the John Rich point I talked about above. Country radio today is unrecognizable to 2000s country.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30732 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:34 pm to
Are you still playing much?
Posted by Fiddler crab
South in winter North in summer
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Are you still playing much?


Retired from teaching bluegrass at a university four years ago and now play a lot with friends up north in the summer and down south in the winter. I perform occasionally but don’t commit long-term to any band. Enjoying playing music more than ever since it’s relatively stress free.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30732 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:43 pm to
As already said, people are still playing and writing real Country music, it's just not getting on radio much anymore.
There is a song contest that I have some songs in right now. It's got 5 final judges. 1 is a man, the other 4 are women, all of the preliminary judges are women.
So, I wrote and demoed some chick songs to enter.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33760 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:46 pm to
Achy, breaky heart
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