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Crepe Myrtles and black soot

Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
380 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:03 am
I have 3 fairly large crepe myrtles that have been neglected for some time. This past winter I pruned them and then put down some fertilizer spikes in April and they have taken off and bloomed were looking beautiful. Now here at the end of summer all 3 are covered in black soot on the leaves, limbs, trunk, the grass under them is turning black, etc. It's just a mess. I've read that it is caused by some type of aphid or insect. As large as they are I don't think I can spray any type of chemical on them effectively. I'm thinking of using a mixture of dawn dishsoap and water in a hose sprayer and soaking the whole things down to smother the bugs causing the issue. (Read this online too)

Tell me where my strategy is gonna fail...lol. Thanks.
Posted by ericw8036
St. Gabriel
Member since Oct 2009
83 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:26 am to
I have the same thing on one of my crape myrtles and it has spread to a couple of the smaller shrubs that surround it. Interested to see the replies for a solution.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1072 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:32 am to
The scale insects and aphids feeding on the leaves of your trees are oozing juice which feeds mold. Go to a good nursery and get a recommendation for a systemic insecticide root drench used in your area. Also consider careful pruning to open the crown up to more light and air circulation. Be warned that many garden-care companies have no idea how to correctly prune crepe myrtles.

Go ahead and try spraying a Dawn solution. A landscape guy I respect swears by it for fire ants. It might work on aphids and scale.
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33849 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:42 am to
I have the exact problem as you. It was a mixture of aphids and white mold. I used the GardenSafe Fungicide3 spray attached to my hose twice so far over the summer and there is a day and night difference.

Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
288 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:47 am to
The systematic insecticide does the trick killing the bugs but it will not remove the black. You'll either need to scrub that off or just wait for the tree to shed on its own.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I have the same thing on one of my crape myrtles


Same here, first time. Had no idea about this and noticed it mowing, was like what the frick is haunting my tree?

Also read the Dawn dish soap method. Maybe I’ll mess with it after Halloween.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13282 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The systematic insecticide does the trick killing the bugs but it will not remove the black. You'll either need to scrub that off or just wait for the tree to shed on its own.


This.



That'll kill the scale... and winter will take care of the black. Do the drench again in the spring. Should clear everything right up.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66814 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:46 am to
Its called "crape myrtle bark scale".
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1566 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:54 am to
quote:

That'll kill the scale... and winter will take care of the black. Do the drench again in the spring. Should clear everything right up.


Nvm misread. Will buy the fertilome drench product and maybe do one application now then again in the spring. I have some neem oil. Will that help?
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 11:21 am
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13282 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Can I do the drench now?

I mean... you can... it's not ideal... they aren't actively growing anymore, or won't be for very long. Better to do that in the spring. Do a dormant oil spray now and wait.

quote:

have it die if thats even possible.

Eh.. it'd have to be pretty darn bad and go unchecked for a long time to kill the tree.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10743 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:16 am to
You can also buy a thousand ladybugs to release on the aphids and they’ll feast.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60152 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:34 am to
I think you have missed the window for this year…the aphide]s and resulting aphid piss is already there. I have the same thing and we need to start the process to control aphids in the spring to prevent the problem altogether.

I like Meepole’s suggestion of buying some ladybugs had unleashing them. They can be had fairly cheaply,
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
380 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:59 pm to
I may try the soap solution this weekend and then get on it early in the spring with the products mentioned here. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4565 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:13 pm to
just cut the crepe down. those things are a pain in the arse.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51824 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:16 pm to
I had same issue last summer, trees never really recovered so we pulled them up this spring

If they are close to the house the black soot will get on your roof
Took a couple of times spraying it down to get the majority off
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
288 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

just cut the crepe down. those things are a pain in the arse


Won't work. I cut down 6 trees about 10 years ago. Fought regrowth from roots for a few years and thought I finally won. Earlier this year I redid the flower beds and decided to till before replanting. Somehow that rejuvenated the old roots and they're growing again.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18528 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Won't work. I cut down 6 trees about 10 years ago. Fought regrowth from roots for a few years and thought I finally won. Earlier this year I redid the flower beds and decided to till before replanting. Somehow that rejuvenated the old roots and they're growing again.



Takes a lot of effort, but I've been successful. I cut them down at the base, dug around the roots as best I could like an archeologist, drill holes all over them, soaked with glyphosate, waited a couple days, soaked with kerosene and covered in scrap wood. Fire burned for like 2 days, but they were toast. I tilled what was left and monitored for a while before planting anything there. This was a few years ago.

Now I had another one in the yard I didn't do quite all of that to and I get shootups occasionally through the grass, but the mower gets them. You can't tell it's lurking underground beneath the lawn, but I know it's there.

Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13282 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

I may try the soap solution this weekend and then get on it early in the spring with the products mentioned here. Thanks for the info.

Go ahead and get some Neem or other horticultural oil (but preferably Neem) on it now. It'll do better on the scale than soap.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 3:19 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13282 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

just cut the crepe down. those things are a pain in the arse.


No they aren't. So long as you don't commit Crape Murder.

They are low maintenance.... well, except for the Bark Scale, which is a relatively new thing...
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
380 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:38 pm to
Sorry if this is a dumb question but how do you apply it to a 20’ tree? With the soap I was thinking of putting it in an ortho dial sprayer hooked to the hose and just spraying the whole thing down. Does neem oil come in a sprayer you connect to the hose?
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 5:54 pm
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