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Economically: could the USA be split in half to two ‘countries’ & have similar GDP?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:40 am
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:40 am
If you split the USA in roughly equal halves : Louisiana to Minnesota east in American A; vs Texas* to North Dakota west is America B …
*BUT in Texas everything north/east of Colorado River goes with America A:
Which GDP would come out on top if American (east) and American (west) each functioned as 2 separate countries?
Cross Trade would be allowed. So consider who has the most valuable commodities.
*BUT in Texas everything north/east of Colorado River goes with America A:
Which GDP would come out on top if American (east) and American (west) each functioned as 2 separate countries?
Cross Trade would be allowed. So consider who has the most valuable commodities.
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:53 am to Bison
Which side does Trump and his tariffs go?
Matters.
Matters.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:04 am to Bison
Both sides lose in a split.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:04 am to Bison
The left side is all the resources and food. the right side is gonna have some problems.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:31 am to Artificial Ignorance
quote:
Which side does Trump and his tariffs go?
Imagine both countries have a Conservative moderate in office who’s only goal is to grow the GDP.
This is an economic , non political, theoretical.
You can trade with other countries too.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:50 am to Bison
Assuming no ill will and basically free trade between them the East would likely have a much larger GDP.
I think there are only 3 western states and the portion of TX you assigned that are in the top half of GDP now. With no reason to ship trade away from each other those numbers would stay more or less stable at the split and probably follow the same path seperate in the future as they would without the split.
I think there are only 3 western states and the portion of TX you assigned that are in the top half of GDP now. With no reason to ship trade away from each other those numbers would stay more or less stable at the split and probably follow the same path seperate in the future as they would without the split.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:50 am to Bison
I say East by a nose
GDP
Services:
Finance (East)
insurance (East)
real estate (East)
healthcare (East)
education (East)
retail (West)
hospitality (West)
tech services (West)
Manufacturing (East)
Energy revenue (West)
Agriculture (West)
Construction (East)
Tech (West)
GDP
Services:
Finance (East)
insurance (East)
real estate (East)
healthcare (East)
education (East)
retail (West)
hospitality (West)
tech services (West)
Manufacturing (East)
Energy revenue (West)
Agriculture (West)
Construction (East)
Tech (West)
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:54 am to Bison
West wins. Apple alone would account for at least a third.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:57 am to TDsngumbo
Whoever has CA with a republican governor wins.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:20 am to TDTOM
quote:
Whoever has CA with a republican governor wins.
Whoever has CA with a democrat governor loses.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:28 am to jennBN
quote:yup, California alone swamps the rest of the states, especially as far as GDP.
The left side is all the resources
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:33 am to Bison
With no trade barriers, I’m not sure I can see how one would be materially better off. West has all the tech output and east is the financial center. I’d think they’d both be all right.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:36 am to Bison
Taking this further, if you were to put up the Big Ten vs. SEC in GDP, what does the comparison of GDP look like?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:50 am to Bison
What's the point unless you move all progs to one side and conservatives to the other. If anything it would be an interesting experiment.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:51 am to bad93ex
Big10 by a landslide considering they now have ucla and usc.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:07 am to Snoop Dawg
quote:
Both sides lose in a split.
This is obviously true from a GDP standpoint but might not at all be true when measured from an average taxpayer standpoint if a full conservative populist platform were enacted resulting in reduced taxes, increased wages and job creation.
I’d argue we do a horrible job of spending tax revenue in this nation because half the country is buying voters via social programs and the lobbyists play off our political divide to further divert spending to donor projects that don’t benefit the average tax payer.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:35 pm to Artificial Ignorance
What about tourism?
West has all the national parks.
Who has more oil? Natural resources to sell off?
West has all the national parks.
Who has more oil? Natural resources to sell off?
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