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Fed Gov Waller explains to the Money Board why rates need to be cut .25 next week
Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:02 pm
And that we are over restricted by 1.25-1.5%
Summary of Fed Waller’s Argument for a Rate Cut
Inflation is Under Control:
Waller believes inflation is near the Fed's 2% target when adjusting for one-time tariff impacts. These price increases are temporary and not embedded in long-term inflation expectations.
Weak Labor Market Signals:
He’s skeptical of the recent BLS jobs report, noting that half the jobs were government roles (which are seasonally skewed), and private job growth remains weak. He expects big downward revisions in 2025 when more accurate QCEW data is released.
Soft Economic Data:
He points out that softer survey-based labor data is showing more weakness than the official BLS data reflects.
Restrictive Monetary Policy:
Waller believes the current Fed policy is overly restrictive—likely 1.25% to 1.5% above neutral. Even with conservative assumptions, he says the Fed is at least 1% too tight.
No Reason to Wait:
With inflation easing and GDP growth soft (just 1% in H1 2025), Waller argues there's no reason to keep policy this tight. Delaying rate cuts risks being too late due to the lag in monetary policy effects.
Does the MB disagree?
Summary of Fed Waller’s Argument for a Rate Cut
Inflation is Under Control:
Waller believes inflation is near the Fed's 2% target when adjusting for one-time tariff impacts. These price increases are temporary and not embedded in long-term inflation expectations.
Weak Labor Market Signals:
He’s skeptical of the recent BLS jobs report, noting that half the jobs were government roles (which are seasonally skewed), and private job growth remains weak. He expects big downward revisions in 2025 when more accurate QCEW data is released.
Soft Economic Data:
He points out that softer survey-based labor data is showing more weakness than the official BLS data reflects.
Restrictive Monetary Policy:
Waller believes the current Fed policy is overly restrictive—likely 1.25% to 1.5% above neutral. Even with conservative assumptions, he says the Fed is at least 1% too tight.
No Reason to Wait:
With inflation easing and GDP growth soft (just 1% in H1 2025), Waller argues there's no reason to keep policy this tight. Delaying rate cuts risks being too late due to the lag in monetary policy effects.
Does the MB disagree?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:18 pm to SDVTiger
I do, simply for the fact I doubt the market will get out of bed for .25 cut.
What I do know. He’ll need to pump those numbers to position himself for JPow’s job.
What I do know. He’ll need to pump those numbers to position himself for JPow’s job.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:38 pm to slackster
quote:
Trump economy must suck.
Dumb as always
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:55 pm to SDVTiger
So we're acknowledging that tariffs, as much as they've been walked back, have had an impact now?
And you believe he's calling for rate cuts too deep by 25 to 50 basis points?
And you believe he's calling for rate cuts too deep by 25 to 50 basis points?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:55 pm to SDVTiger
quote:no, it’s not
Inflation is Under Control:
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:11 pm to Joshjrn
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So we're acknowledging that tariffs, as much as they've been walked back, have had an impact now?
Havent seen any impact
quote:
And you believe he's calling for rate cuts too deep by 25 to 50 basis points?
Its seems obvious he wants to cut to 3% i would imagine that would be over the next 12mnths
quote:
no, it’s not
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 8:06 am to SDVTiger
So, is this an admission that we should cut rates to stimulate a weak, below average economy?
Posted on 7/19/25 at 8:10 am to SDVTiger
Selfishly, I really hope they start reducing rates. When I was a newbie to investing back in 2021 my advisor put a ton of money into munis. Right after we bought, the rates shot up and my principal took a massive hit. I still haven’t recovered 4 years later even with my equity positions at all time highs. A few rate cuts would hopefully get my values back up so I can sell these POS 15 year 3.5% bonds. Am I the only one in this boat?
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 7/19/25 at 8:38 am to SDVTiger
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Havent seen any impact
So your position is that he’s incorrect?
quote:
Its seems obvious he wants to cut to 3% i would imagine that would be over the next 12mnths
And being you believe we should cut 1%, you believe he’s off by 25 to 50 basis points, correct?
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:01 am to Lsu05
quote:
When I was a newbie to investing back in 2021 my advisor put a ton of money into munis.
Oof
Shoulda bought GameStop instead back in 21. I’d fire that advisor
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:29 am to el Gaucho
It’s in the works. I’ve lost out on so much wealth building in the last 4 years it’s sickening!
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:36 am to Lsu05
Could be worse. A poster complained about his 401k options a couple years ago and everyone assumed he was illiterate because the returns he stated were impossible.
Lo and behold, another poster ran the numbers and discovered that all of his options were in fact high fee money losers.
Lo and behold, another poster ran the numbers and discovered that all of his options were in fact high fee money losers.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:46 am to SDVTiger
Disagree. Inflation is not under control. I expect it to rise significantly later this year.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:48 am to SDVTiger
Yeah I disagree. It should be cut half a point OR cut .25 with increased QE.
“Real” rates are like 8% now when factoring base rate and QT
“Real” rates are like 8% now when factoring base rate and QT
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:35 am to SDVTiger
quote:
Dumb as always
Your entire OP is a case that the economy sucks.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:37 am to Lsu05
quote:
A few rate cuts would hopefully get my values back up so I can sell these POS 15 year 3.5% bonds. Am I the only one in this boat?
A few rate cuts aren’t going to do shite to your 20 year minus that are going to make exactly what you were told they would make if you just hold them.
ETA- it’s also clear you still have no clue how bonds work.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 10:39 am
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:01 am to Lsu05
who the frick is your advisor? how old are you?
do you know how to trade stocks? futures? options? do you want or need multiple income streams? Do you want or need dividends now?
if all you need is growth and are scared of any speculative stocks just throw it in VOO and QQQ. add monthly.
do you know how to trade stocks? futures? options? do you want or need multiple income streams? Do you want or need dividends now?
if all you need is growth and are scared of any speculative stocks just throw it in VOO and QQQ. add monthly.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 11:16 am to Lsu05
quote:
When I was a newbie to investing back in 2021 my advisor put a ton of money into munis.

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