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Rush's brother has a message for all you Epstein Panicans

Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:46 am
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:46 am


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Many think Trump is being dismissive of the Epstein thing -- cavalier. I don't read it that way. I think he's pissed. He has racked up amazing, unprecedented policy accomplishments and Epstein is sucking the wind out of it -- not to just to his detriment, but ultimately to ours.

I think we're being presented with a false choice: you either favor full disclosure no matter the law and consequences about which we have no knowledge, or you're a pedi-protector.

Do you all really believe Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, let alone Pam Bondi despite her PR missteps, have something to hide here? Is it conceivable that Patel and Bongino have railed about this issue for some time and now have some nefarious motive in changing their position? Did they find out -- unbeknownst to themselves -- that they are on the list?

Could there be some plausible explanation as to why they are playing their cards close to the vest for the time being, or is the fact that they're doing so proof that they are suddenly embroiled in corruption?

That is not plausible to me. I don't think these people changed their stripes that quickly. And I don't think my willingness to trust them -- makes me an enabler of corruption or perversion.

Back to Trump. If he were implicated the Dems would have crucified him when they had sole possession of the materials -- files, list or no list. You know it. I know it.

But now people who have doggedly supported him even through tougher times are turning on him and piling on with the opportunistic Democrats who heretofore haven't given two shakes about any of this.


None of us knows the full story yet. None of us knows yet why the administration hasn't done a better job explaining at least that they'll be able to tell us more later.

But it seems many have so much invested in believing the worst about this -- that Epstein was the leader or at the center of a Robert Ludlum-level international conspiracy -- that they can't let it go. It's as if their worldview will crumble if their worst suspicions aren't vindicated. And if Trump and his administration happen to be in office when this whole thing fizzles, then they too must have been nefariously drawn into this conspiracy that is too powerful even for the fiercest of otherwise moral mortals.

In the meantime, Trump's heyday is being rained on and he feels betrayed by a bunch of supporters who in turn feel that he's betrayed them.

Well, I'm just asking for a little grace on both sides, especially the supporters who should at least give Trump, Bongino, Patel, and even Bondi some trust here before throwing them to the dogs. There has to be more to the story -- or possibly way less to the story.

But this idea that previously non-corrupt people have immediately become corrupt just doesn't pass the smell test for me and it surprises me that so many supporters have been so quick to jump ship.

And I repeat -- no way in hell I'm defending the protection or insulation of pedophiles or corruption. Trump's policies on the border alone have burnished his credentials as an enemy of trafficking and pedophilia. (I'm not intending to conflate the different issues, but he deserves credit for that).
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 5:49 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8683 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:50 am to
Thanks, David.

Trump has had several years in office to do something about Epstein, not just a few months. Everything he is now saying about Epstein points to doing more nothing.

Our patience is tapped out.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 7:05 am
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16821 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:53 am to
David, don’t bring reason or rational thought into this emotional subject. We’re enjoying being hysterical monkeys.
Posted by AUCom96
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:53 am to
The problem with railing against an overarching government that considers itself above the people it claims to serve is that you have to practice what you preach once you are in the system.

A lot of people ran their mouth prior to Trump's election, including Trump. Now, they are all Baghdad Bob. And Pam Bondi's dipshit arse basically hurled gas on the fire. Our government is VERY corrupt. I am fully, 100% convinced of that. I'd even go so far as to say it's evil. When those you expect to fight that corruption and evil tell you to shut up and sit down, it's going to put a big fat hole in your populist rhetoric. And Trump throwing tantrums will only make it worse.
Posted by MetalJacket1973
Member since Jul 2025
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 5:55 am to
Rush's brother clearly hasn't seen or read Trump's reactions to all this. Trump is squirming and panicking.
Posted by DiamondInTheRough
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:00 am to
Come on, Stubble. Are you living in a vaccuum? As David noted, he HAS done more, excepionally more, in the past 4-5 months, the time he has had his Cabinet staff, than we have ever seen prior. You know this. Everyone knows this. Like David, I am not saying the Epstein situation tanks all that, but you have to be mentally challenged / inept, to not recognize the accomplishments, or to literally send the baby out with the bath water. Please, get it together. The Epstein issue will work itself out, as no way Bondi, Patel, Bongino are all corrupt.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6613 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:09 am to
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Trump has had several years in office to do something, not just a few months. Everything he is now saying points to doing more nothing.


Dude. This Epstein crap is a snafu but to say the man has done nothing in the past 5 months??? Dude.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8683 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:16 am to
quote:

Come on, Stubble. Are you living in a vaccuum? As David noted, he HAS done more, excepionally more, in the past 4-5 months, the time he has had his Cabinet staff, than we have ever seen prior. You know this. Everyone knows this


I couldn’t agree more. However, on this issue, he has proven to be a liar, and the damage being done isn’t by those calling him out as a liar, it’s being done by him. And it doesn’t have to be, it’s a choice, and a bad one.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3437 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:16 am to
Trump is doing some good things elsewhere so let your betters get away with being pedophiles.

Kicks rocks Dave.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
47009 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:17 am to
quote:

Back to Trump. If he were implicated the Dems would have crucified him when they had sole possession of the materials -- files, list or no list. You know it. I know it.



I agree completely with this, but many ground level people have been saying this same thing for a week or more now, and nobody listens

then somebody with name recognition says the same thing, and he's a fricking genius

if that pisses you off, then I'm with you. If it doesn't, then you're a mental lazy arse

I liked Rush for a long time, but then he became an Israel warmongering advocate. I do not respect that. And I do not trust the people from that side of the field. Automatically. Do Not Trust.

Epstein and his cohorts were on the side of Israel intelligence, and now we've got a Israeli govt lover lecturing us on Epstein. frick that.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 6:24 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69359 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:17 am to
Trump called his supporters stupid and told them to shut up and do as they’re told and if they don’t praise him they aren’t worth his time anyway.

Twice in the last 3 days.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47009 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:26 am to
quote:

Trump called his supporters stupid and told them to shut up and do as they’re told and if they don’t praise him they aren’t worth his time anyway.



Yep.

Terrible way to treat the people who voted for you.

It's BAD TREATMENT. It could be described in a worse way by people with an agenda.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19821 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:31 am to
It was a cover for an intelligence op.

The FL prosecutor was told so explicitly.

No other explanation rationally explains why they would’ve behaved the way they did regarding the case.

Trump and his admin were forced to choose between telling us the truth or not and they not only chose to lie (thus owning what was never their scandal to begin with), but now gaslighting us to an unprecedented degree telling us the issue never existed to begin with, no evidence exists (when people were raided on Fox), evidence taken with pictures documenting what was grabbed and people sent to prison on federal charges.

Trump made this an issue by choosing to take a something he himself along with much of his cabinet had run on and then decided to change course without explanation.

And instead of doing so subtly now he now repeatedly insults his own supporters if they dare to insist on what was promised to the point that in his own words they have no place in the movement they’ve been a part of for three election cycles (which have included near civil war levels of political discord) if they don’t drop it.

Even worse he does this with zero indictments made of anyone who has obviously broken the law over the last 12 years which signals a larger decision not to follow through on any of the larger political issues lingering over our nation.

This context has made it feel as though hard lines are being drawn between what his base of non-elite voters can expect as far as accountability from an establishment class completely out of control. In the midst of a populist movement that’s not just a bad political decision, frankly it can be a dangerous move when people feel denied a political and juridical means by which to hold the “elites” accountable. Trump in his own words was supposed to be exactly that means of accountability and now he’s seemingly reversed course.

Whatever his logic the base didn’t do anything wrong here. This is all on Trump not just for what he decided to do, but for how he decided to do it.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 8:34 am
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
22819 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:52 am to
I’m just wondering if the SDNY office tampered with the files when they had them. I find it suspicious that it was the group who prosecuted Epstein, Trump, Diddy, and Maxwell. Remember, they held files back from Bondi, why?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92351 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:58 am to
You are all such drama queens

Always whiny and crying like scorned exes

You needed to be told to stfu
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
39099 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:00 am to
quote:

I’m just wondering if the SDNY office tampered with the files when they had them. I find it suspicious that it was the group who prosecuted Epstein, Trump, Diddy, and Maxwell. Remember, they held files back from Bondi, why?


The elephant in the room. This is why Trump said the DOJ should release “credible” evidence.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
39995 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:07 am to
quote:

The elephant in the room. This is why Trump said the DOJ should release “credible” evidence.


Trump’s doj had the case first. Should be pretty easy to highlight the tampering, if it exists.

Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8683 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:07 am to
quote:


The FL prosecutor was told so explicitly.

No other explanation rationally explains why they would’ve behaved the way they did regarding the case.


This X 1000.

And this should be at the top of mind for everyone on the issue, the potential that powerful politicians vote the way they do because they are threatened to do so by our greatest ally.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5394 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:07 am to
I couldn't pick this guy out of line up as anyone I know. Nor do I care about his opinion. Rush was awesome, but people have the right to disagree with people we like too.

Trump is handling this all wrong, and keeps doubling down. Nothing wrong with seeing this as the status quo continuing. It's true no one cares about Epstein specifically, as much as, what the story represents.

Put a final nail in it properly, don't come off as sweeping it under the rug. It's a trust thing. Sure it can be 5D chess, but get us to checkmate quicker Trump, you are losing the room on this one.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 7:10 am
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
306 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 7:15 am to
Trump is my guy but he’s his own worst enemy. He says stupid shite constantly and the Epstein issue is yet another. The way he dismisses the topic as if everyone else is crazy for thinking there’s more to the story is f**king stupid. If he’s going to lie about it then choose a better way to do it or just be Frank and tell us what he thought would be in the files isn’t. Either the dens destroyed the evidence or there never was any. He chooses to act like it never happened. No one really believes there isn’t more to the story. We just may not have the actual proof.
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