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Seed Oils- Any updates?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:10 pm
For a long time olive oil was considered the acceptable one, then avocado oil took the number one spot for being the good one. Is that all still true?
What's the current consensus in 2025 for the seed oil issue?
What's the current consensus in 2025 for the seed oil issue?
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:12 pm to deeprig9
Health or just cooking use?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:16 pm to Havoc
Health. As in cooking with healthier oils. So both. I'm not concerned with smoke points and all that.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:18 pm to deeprig9
Using an olive oil to cook some chicken is not a huge problem
The bigger issue is if you're eating deep fried foods often. Or food that use soybean oil to stay shelf stable, etc
The bigger issue is if you're eating deep fried foods often. Or food that use soybean oil to stay shelf stable, etc
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:20 pm to mylsuhat
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Or food that use soybean oil to stay shelf stable, etc
Such as all mayonnaise which I consume more than any other condiment. Not including cheese, but I consider that an ingredient, not a condiment.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:20 pm to deeprig9
Yeah, no one ever claimed mayo was good for you 
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:21 pm to deeprig9
EVOO is better than standard olive oil. Avocado oil is better for cooking at higher temps because it has a 500 degree smoke point, along with similar health benefits. As far as I know, the health differences are negligible while the cost for avocado oil is significantly higher / fl oz. Both also have different baking uses with things like bread.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:22 pm to deeprig9
Like most things, seed oils are fine in moderation. They have some good benefits to them. They also can eventually be harmful if consumed in large quantities, often.
Cooking wise, one reason avacado oil became so popular is because of its smoke point vs olive oil and a littl milder flavor depennding on what you are using it for.
Cooking wise, one reason avacado oil became so popular is because of its smoke point vs olive oil and a littl milder flavor depennding on what you are using it for.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:24 pm to mylsuhat
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Yeah, no one ever claimed mayo was good for you
I want it to be less not-good for me.
Why can't I get a straight answer?
Does it make any difference whether it's Soy Mayo or Avocado Mayo? Does it move the needle at all?
I don't follow all the seed oil stuff, I just have heard "seed oil bad".
From one sandwich to another, it doesn't make a difference. But lets say I go through two jars a year. Is there a benefit to consuming two jars of olive oil or avocado mayo instead of 2 jars of soy mayo?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:27 pm to deeprig9
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From one sandwich to another, it doesn't make a difference. But lets say I go through two jars a year. Is there a benefit to consuming two jars of olive oil or avocado mayo instead of 2 jars of soy mayo?
Drastically? No.
Avocado based mayo will be higher in monounsaturated fats while your typical mayo with soy oil will be higher in polyunsaturated fats. Monounsaturated is generally assumed better for your LDL's.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:30 pm to deeprig9
Straight answers are hard because everyone is different
Seed Oil = Bad is big and trendy right now
But go to Italy and see how many fit folks are having oils with every meal. Facebook nutrition experts are insinuating that you can eat 2000 calories of french fries a day as long as they're fried in beef tallow...
The way I personally look at it is, shelf stable foods with oils are worse than foods I make with oils. Is it right? idk but at least I know exactly whats going on. I rarely use mayo. If I do, yeah I'll make some
Seed Oil = Bad is big and trendy right now
But go to Italy and see how many fit folks are having oils with every meal. Facebook nutrition experts are insinuating that you can eat 2000 calories of french fries a day as long as they're fried in beef tallow...
The way I personally look at it is, shelf stable foods with oils are worse than foods I make with oils. Is it right? idk but at least I know exactly whats going on. I rarely use mayo. If I do, yeah I'll make some
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:33 pm to deeprig9
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Soy Mayo or Avocado Mayo? Does it move the needle at all?
Soy is bad, especially for dudes and kids, b/c of estrogen effects.
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Lifetime exposure to estrogenic substances, especially during critical periods of development, has been associated with formation of malignancies and several anomalies of the reproductive systems. Phytoestrogen consumption in infants, through soy-based formulas, is of particular concern.
None of Primal Kitchen's Mayo uses soy, it's all avocado. It's expensive, but also really easy to make for a lot less. Just make enough to last you two weeks at a time. My 11 year old loves the Primal Kitchen stuff which is stable for longer.
Why is soybean oil used in almost everything cheap? It's anecdotal, for sure, but why is it used in every damn salad dressing, etc.? Because it's cheap, not because it's good for you.
ETA: Here is a more layman's take on when people started figuring out soybean oil wasn't without potential bad impacts starting in 2009.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 12:43 pm to mylsuhat
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Facebook nutrition experts are insinuating that you can eat 2000 calories of french fries a day as long as they're fried in beef tallow...
I mean, you can
. You're going to eventually run into issues with your macro and micro nutrients. If the only goal was losing or maintaining weight though, then you could do this and achieve that goal. I think the larger point to that though, is that as long as you aren't over-eating, the "bad" things really aren't that bad for you. We just have a completely unrealistic idea of portion sizes and how much we actually eat.Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:09 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
i think i could never eat seed oil again if it all smelled like when they clean out a restaurant fryer
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:10 pm to deeprig9
Just avoid vegetable oil and you’ll be fine.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:26 pm to mylsuhat
You're forgetting the part that in other countries, their oils are not processed as heavily as ones done here.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:11 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:Best statement I have seen here on the topic.
Like most things, seed oils are fine in moderation. They have some good benefits to them. They also can eventually be harmful if consumed in large quantities, often.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:18 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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They also can eventually be harmful if consumed in large quantities, often.
What would be considered a large quantity? Say you use 1-2 tablespoons a day to cook with. Is that too much?
I honestly don't know.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:49 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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They have some good benefits to them.
Such as?
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:49 pm to AlxTgr
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Best statement I have seen here on the topic.
lol, why?
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