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Private payrolls shrunk 33k in June, badly missing expectations of 100k increase - ADP

Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:21 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:21 am
CNBC

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Private sector hiring unexpectedly contracted in June, payrolls processing firm ADP said Wednesday, in a possible sign that the economy may not be as sturdy that investors believed as they bid the S&P 500 back up to record territory to end the month.

Private payrolls lost 33,000 jobs in the June, the ADP report showed. Economists polled by Dow Jones forecast an increase of 100,000 for the month. The May job growth figure was revised even lower to just 29,000 jobs added from 37,000.

“Though layoffs continue to be rare, a hesitancy to hire and a reluctance to replace departing workers led to job losses last month,” Nela Richardson, ADP’s chief economist, said in a press release published Wednesday morning.

To be sure, the ADP report has a spotty track record on predicting the subsequent government jobs report, which investors tend to weigh more heavily. May’s soft ADP data ended up differing significantly from the monthly jobs report figures that came later in the week.


BLS report comes out Friday.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92463 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:23 am to
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BLS report comes out Friday.


Will probably be a blow out number only to be revised down 3mnths later

The revisions from the last report should be interesting

You still claiming powell isnt playing politics?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463877 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:26 am to
Is the correction finally coming?
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9408 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:27 am to
JPow is definitely playing politics….
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16595 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:27 am to
Tariff impacts.

Companies are tightening purse strings.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:28 am to
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You still claiming powell isnt playing politics?


Fed’s job is stable prices and full employment. He’s been able to achieve both for a while now. This board (and I tend to agree) is quite confident that economic growth is going to be picking up under his policies and the BBB. Why on earth should he cut much/at all in the face of those conditions?

ETA: it’s also an entire FOMC that votes on this stuff. They unanimously voted to keep rates unchanged in June.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92463 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:30 am to
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JPow is definitely playing politics….


100%. I have been getting a lot of tds resistance from MB geniuses for saying this for months now

You also have the morons who claim tariff impacts
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178920 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:30 am to
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Fed’s job is stable prices and full employment. He’s been able to achieve both for a while now. This board (and I tend to agree) is quite confident that economic growth is going to be picking up under his policies and the BBB. Why on earth should he cut much/at all in the face of those conditions?

ETA: it’s also an entire FOMC that votes on this stuff. They unanimously voted to keep rates unchanged in June.



But muh Powell!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4657 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:32 am to
Wait, yesterday I was told that, check notes, every single metric of the economy showed it was strong.

Even one Einstein said it was the “strongest economy ever”
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4715 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:32 am to
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20315 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:32 am to
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Private payrolls shrunk 33k


Lotta illegals being purged from the books.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92463 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:34 am to
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ETA: it’s also an entire FOMC that votes on this stuff


Yes at too lates direction. He got them all to vote for the cuts in 24

Hes playing politics. You are still in denial about that I see
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15788 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:35 am to
Or maybe ADP just stopped screwing up their clients payrolls?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:37 am to
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SDVTiger


To be clear, you don’t believe the economy is strong so it needs to be stimulated with lower rates?

Just want to get you on record for the next time someone brags about something like Atlanta GDPNow
Posted by BasedAF
Member since Nov 2024
689 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:38 am to
Jerome is too late!!!
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25585 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:39 am to
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To be sure, the ADP report has a spotty track record

In other words, doom and gloom for Trump. Rainbows and unicorn farts for Democrats.
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:39 am to
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slackster


One of the OG BoomerTard Panicans

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ADP




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the ADP report has a spotty track record on predicting the subsequent government jobs report




See you in 4 weeks for the monthly melt.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:42 am to
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One of the OG BoomerTard Panicans


Come again?

Regardless, you sound confident that the economy is strong. Glad you agree that Powell should basically stay put.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463877 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:42 am to
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Rainbows and unicorn farts for Democrats.

What do Democrats have to do with anything ITT?
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4657 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:46 am to
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Tariff impacts. Companies are tightening purse strings.


No one wants to talk about it but it is real even though some in here like to proclaim that tariffs stimulate economic activity, or at the a minimum, don’t impact things at all.

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