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Youtube just suggested to me a Pellies' channel with the absolute best takes
Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:36 pm
I've synced the video up to his discussion of trade-gate.
His argument: "tell me who is this magical prospect that we should be planning for in 2026" and that the pick is great because he's "useful" rather than "extraordinary". He even asks, "why is everybody trying to look for extraordinary? Maybe we don't want extraordinary right now...we just need useful".
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
seems like a new channel? I'll check him out, see how his takes are
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:28 pm to Pelicans15
Basically says the Pels are just a small piece away from being contenders. What a moron.
No legit PG, injury prone star PF, no leadership, no legit center for depth.
Not even a good coach, but they are right there to become a contender.
Some fans are either that stupid or this guy is on the Pels payroll.
No legit PG, injury prone star PF, no leadership, no legit center for depth.
Not even a good coach, but they are right there to become a contender.
Some fans are either that stupid or this guy is on the Pels payroll.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:32 pm to Geauxgurt
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Basically says the Pels are just a small piece away from being contenders. What a moron.
Calling people that share this opinion "morons" while completely basing your opinion off a season where none of our players played together is fricking retarded.
Your whole opinion is based on assuming Zion/ Murray/ Herb don't touch the court this year because that's pretty much how last season went.
Their take isn't moronic, your take is dense and lacks a lot of critical thinking.
We really are a vet PG/ SG and a center away. If you don't believe that then you actually believe all of our players will be injured this year and both Fears/ Queen are garbage. And if that's your honest opinion than theres honestly no reason to post here so frick off.
We were a top 4 seed with lesser players before injuries 2 years ago. Do we just forget that to make all pessimistic arguments add up?
I'm almost as pessimistic as they come and yet I can clearly see good things and possibilities with this roster. The fact that some try so hard to only look at every bad thing and then exaggerate those things while avoiding all opposing points is sad. Some real loser mentalities.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:39 pm to Dantheman504
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Your whole opinion is based on assuming Zion/ Murray/ Herb don't touch the court this year because that's pretty much how last season went.
Murray is injured and will be worthless next year, and potentially the year after that. Zion has simply strengthened the data that he will be useless for most of the season and unavailable for the post season due to injury or eating his way out of the league.
Herb is a great layer for a team where he can be the glue guy, and not a lead player. It’s nothing against him, he’s great but his skill set is built as a support player, albeit an amazing one.
Again, coaching has been atrocious even when healthy. Green has been awful at utilizing rookies, but sure; he will magically change now.
Add in that half the team is coming back from significant injury, and no, this team is not going to be a contender. They may make the play in, but that is about it.
Again, foolish fans listen to owners and GMs saying next year. I hate OKC, but they filled needs with good signings and drafting/trades. They didn’t just collect talent that weren’t good fits.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:41 pm to Dantheman504
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We were a top 4 seed with lesser players before injuries 2 years ago. Do we just forget that to make all pessimistic arguments add up? Y'all fricking suck.
Hmmmm. Where are the players from that team? Ingram? Gone. CJ? Gone. There is no leadership whatsoever on the team, and you expect Zion to fill that void when he can’t stop himself from ballooning each offseason.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:43 pm to Geauxgurt
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and you expect Zion to fill that void when he can’t stop himself from ballooning each offseason. ?
Damn I didn't realize Zion isn't healthy or isn't playing this season??? I have an idea how about you disappear until that situation happens?
Its a win win, either you can come back and say "I told you so" or we can just not have to listen to all the whiny bullshite.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:50 pm to Geauxgurt
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I hate OKC, but they filled needs with good signings and drafting/trades. They didn’t just collect talent that weren’t good fits.
So you hate OKC for doing exactly what we are doing but hate us because we aren't doing what they are doing?
So if our players end up good just like OKC then you will be happy? No fricking shite! Welcome to being every other fan...
Literally the only difference is that you won't give our young guys a chance vs OKC guys who now have proof that they are good so you can make this argument....
I don't think you realize how dumb this take is and how just genuinely miserable you sound.
"Their rebuild led to a championship but its dumb for us to rebuild because our players haven't played a game yet and therefore haven't won a championship"
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:00 pm to Geauxgurt
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Add in that half the team is coming back from significant injury, and no, this team is not going to be a contender.
Alright so lets play it out. We don't make the playoffs. Zion/ Murray/ Herb get traded at the deadline for a Brandon Miller type player and several picks including a #10-#15 26' pick.
What the frick are you upset about?
Upset we finally moved on from Zion/ purgatory?
Upset that we now have a badass young core and future picks?
The more people realize what these moves mean as a whole the less upset y'all should be and just be excited to see how it plays out.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:11 pm to Dantheman504
quote:here we go. We were the 1 seed for 12 hours in December too!! We’re good yall! That 49 win team was healthy majority of the year while lucking out playing good teams who sat out there stars and still could only make the play-in. Not only did we lose BI and CJ since then but also the west has gotten even more loaded. And people still think we’re close to contending. Come on. This roster lacks defense, overall strength, physicality, and perimeter shooting.
We were a top 4 seed with lesser players before injuries 2 years ago. Do we just forget that to make all pessimistic arguments add up?
Plus you have to play two rookies so they can actually develop. This is a bottom 4 western conference team currently.
I’d love to ask yall who do you think we’re better than currently in the west? I see maybe 4 teams
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:28 pm to Macintosh
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I’d love to ask yall who do you think we’re better than currently in the west? I see maybe 4 teams
I think its funny because I only see 4 teams that are better than us in the West.
OKC
HOU
DEN
MIN
Which if we get a legit center then we are right up there with those teams.
Half the other teams are in a similar position to us or worse with a much bleaker future outlook and the other teams are in a competitive rebuild phase just like us including Mavs/ Spurs.
Now of course if I assume that none of our players are healthy, Zion is arse, and our rookies are mediocre then I would have a different opinion. BUT i'd have to have a fair opinion so if we assume Zion is out then we assume AD, Lebron, etc will be out. And if our rookies are arse then so will other teams. See how this shite can go?
Lets just take the fact that we know when healthy we are a pretty good team and we now added 2 top 15 rookies. That just doesn't scream bottom 4 or lottery team.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:28 pm to Macintosh
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I’d love to ask yall who do you think we’re better than currently in the west? I see maybe 4 teams
Shhhh. Questioning clearly stupid moves predicated around the team be on the cusp when they are nowhere close is blasphemy.
Logic be damned. Also, this is nothing like the OKC situation and the fact I stated they did a good job through a lot of good decisions somehow means the pels bad decisions are okay.
OKC used their war chest excellently. They didn’t waste it like the Pels wasted theirs
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:33 pm to Dantheman504
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So you hate OKC for doing exactly what we are doing but hate us because we aren't doing what they are doing?
OKC probably had triple the amount of future firsts we have. We just gave away two last year in the DD trade.
And what unprotected picks are OKC trading away? They are the one team that can do it and I’d have no issue with it. They are deep, have elite talent and a real treasure chest of assets.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:39 pm to Dantheman504
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Your whole opinion is based on assuming Zion/ Murray/ Herb don't touch the court this year because that's pretty much how last season went.
I mean even at (realistic) full strength, we still have one legit 5 and he's a 2nd year developmental guy (who did OK last year, admittedly)
We have spacing issues still.
We're going to be relying on Jordan Poole as our point guard for long stretches of the season.
Who do you think we're better than in the West?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:40 pm to Dantheman504
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I think its funny because I only see 4 teams that are better than us in the West.
OKC
HOU
DEN
MIN
Biggest Jordan Poole fan on the planet I see
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:46 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
think its funny because I only see 4 teams that are better than us in the West.
OKC
HOU
DEN
MIN
I have no idea how someone could come to this conclusion
We will be very fortunate to be a play-in team
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Biggest Jordan Poole fan on the planet I see
No? What does that have to do with my answer. Are y'all trying to say that teams like POR, GSW, and LAC are just that much better than us at full strength cause if so yall are absolutely nuts.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:51 pm to Dantheman504
Portland isn’t
The others, yeah, absolutely
We are closer to the Utah/Portland/SAC zone than we are to a 5 seed
The others, yeah, absolutely
We are closer to the Utah/Portland/SAC zone than we are to a 5 seed
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:53 pm to Macintosh
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Plus you have to play two rookies so they can actually develop. This is a bottom 4 western conference team currently.
Last I checked, Green is still head coach, so that won’t be happening.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:58 pm to Dantheman504
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No? What does that have to do with my answer. Are y'all trying to say that teams like POR, GSW, and LAC are just that much better than us at full strength cause if so yall are absolutely nuts.
GSW and LAC have better talent and better coaching, so I am not sure your point. They both have former MVPs on their team and coaching staffs that get the most out of their players.
You are nuts to think this squad is healthy and both draft picks are good is anything better that 8th.
Hell LAL will be better than this team as well as Dallas.
Both are worlds better when healthy than this currently constructed Pels team even with a serviceable center brought in.
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