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Harvard's May Graduation Class = 25% unemployed

Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:32 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20388 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:32 am
Highest in history by a wide margin. People are waking up to the modern Ivy scam.

There was a time when an Ivy degree was something to be admired.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:36 am to
It’s the major that they have chosen most of the time. They picked something like Gender Studies or some other liberal arts major. An engineering or nursing degree from LSU is more valuable than a Gender Studies degree from Harvard. Hell training as a plumber or electrician is more valuable than a Harvard Gender Studies degree.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5010 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:37 am to
25% of their 2024 MBA class also unemployed:

LINK
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13304 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:40 am to
I truly wonder if I want my kids to go to college anymore. It almost seems like a waste unless you wanna be a Dr. or a Lawyer.

Feel like in 2025 and in the future, if you apply yourself, you can learn just about anything either hands on or from something freely or cheaply available online.

Is college obsolete? Serious question. My kids are around the 10yo age. Don't see a need for them to go to school in 8-10 years.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:40 am to
Usually takes more than a month to get a job nowadays if you don't already have one lined up. That 25% number would be something to pay attention to in November, not June.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4274 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:40 am to
Im not kidding when I say if I had my own company I would actively avoid hiring Ivy league grads. They are way more likely to cause you trouble than help you.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:40 am to
A Harvard MBA could find a job. They are probably looking for something in a certain status/salary range. My guess is they could take something in retail, fast food, sales, etc. They just don’t want that type of work.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116706 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:41 am to
A lot of colleges have Lab schools. LSU has one. These schools are usually very good academically. On one of my trips to Harvard I visited the Harvard lab school. It was spring break so no students, but they had a hallway displaying the names of graduating seniors and where they intend to go on to college. There were about 40 graduates. The most common choice was not college. It was 'beautician school'. Ten of the girls picked that. I found out that Harvard was using DEI long before I ever heard of it and these students did not develop an interest in academics just because they were at Harvard.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:42 am to
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Usually takes more than a month to get a job nowadays if you don't already have one lined up. That 25% number would be something to pay attention to in November, not June.

Tell that to a welder that’s willing to move anywhere in the US, lol.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:42 am to
Depends. For white collar work, it’s still a pre-req for probably 99% of people. It’s not so much you learn anything valuable, as it is an expected feature.

It would be really hard to even get an interview for entry level white collar work without a degree. Down road, might be corporate ceiling limit without a degree - just as it gets harder for people with bachelors and not MBAs to move up at a certain point


If your kids aren’t interested in white collar work, then yes college is a complete waste of time
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7082 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:

eel like in 2025 and in the future, if you apply yourself, you can learn just about anything either hands on or from something freely or cheaply available online.

Is college obsolete? Serious question. My kids are around the 10yo age. Don't see a need for them to go to school in 8-10 years.


My wife and I, both college grads, have this conversation daily. Kids are 10 and 12.

The value of a college degree is plummeting and the cost is skyrocketing. It makes sense for some majors, but increasingly that isn't the path it appears. I have NO clue what the right path is for success now.

Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20388 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Usually takes more than a month to get a job nowadays if you don't already have one lined up. That 25% number would be something to pay attention to in November, not June.



Not for Harvard. They usually have jobs lined up in the fall for June.

Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
810 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:43 am to
I don’t know if it’s calculated in there , but I wonder how much of the percentage is possibly spoiled rich kids who are in no rush to get a job.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13304 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:44 am to
Agree. I work in technology so my opinion is obviously skewed but coding, project management, application management, etc does NOT seem like something my kids need to go to college to learn.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27662 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:44 am to
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25% unemployed


Probably received some type free tuition due to DEI.



quote:

There was a time when an Ivy degree was something to be admired.
Good Will Hunting was about Harvard
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60145 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:45 am to
USAID funding issues
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:46 am to
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Tell that to a welder that’s willing to move anywhere in the US, lol.


The topic is about college grads, not tradesmen.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
888 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:47 am to
If I owned a business and were looking to hire…a Harvard graduate would be bottom of the list.
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1656 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:49 am to
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Not for Harvard. They usually have jobs lined up in the fall for June.


Are those counted in June's unemployment numbers?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:50 am to
The tradesmen that I know go to RPCC River Parishes Community College, lol. I know people who moved from there to Nicholls or LSU and transferred their credits. It happens all the time. In Ascension parish it’s possible to have a 2 year associate’s degree when getting your high school diploma. These trades are training in Community Colleges now.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 10:51 am
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