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Apparently Ken Burns is coming out with an American Revolution documentary series
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:49 pm
Wonder how much gnashing of teeth he will do regarding those horrible founding fathers.
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:01 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:02 pm to grizzlylongcut
His conversation with Rogan was excellent. I’m honestly not really sure what you’re trying to say though.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:07 pm to grizzlylongcut
Wut?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:09 pm to grizzlylongcut
It will tell the story of how 3 sassy slaves helped Washington win the war.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:12 pm to grizzlylongcut
Benjamin Franklin was critical of the irony of men owning slaves while proclaiming "all men are created equal." I acknowledge that the founding fathers were men of their time, but implying these critiques are off base is stupid.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:13 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Wonder how much gnashing of teeth he will do regarding those horrible founding fathers.
As great as The Civil War series was, this will be the opposite. A tour de force of white quilt. I expect heavy influences from the 1619 Project.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:15 pm to udtiger
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I expect heavy influences from the 1619 Project.
What leads you to expect this?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:17 pm to icecreamsnowball
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I expect heavy influences from the 1619 Project.
What leads you to expect this?
Burns has been trying to "atone" for the positive light he gave the South in CW. This is his moment to set things right (remember the influence of Virginia and slaveholders).
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:20 pm to icecreamsnowball
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I’m honestly not really sure what you’re trying to say though.
Preemptive “grrr patriotism bad” melt.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:20 pm to udtiger
I didn’t get this vibe at all when hearing him talk about it on Rogan for two hours.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:22 pm to udtiger
I think you're overly sensitive and 95% of the things Ken Burns produces is awesome.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:24 pm to CatfishJohn
They have been, but in today’s world, I don’t doubt anything. Ken Burns will have to surround himself with woke in any film making endeavors. And he’s already faced criticism from his Civil War Series he has to live in the academia world. Have you not seen the ridiculous turn Neil Degrasse Tyson has taken.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:32 pm to grizzlylongcut
Can we get a Ken Burns documentary of the SEC?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:34 pm to icecreamsnowball
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His conversation with Rogan was excellent. I’m honestly not really sure what you’re trying to say though.
OP is being a soft sensitive snowflake. He should really man up.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:38 pm to Riggle
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I acknowledge that the founding fathers were men of their time, but implying these critiques are off base is stupid.
Even your acknowledgment is not the right perspective.
The American Founding Fathers were on the forefront of the western liberal philosophy which was recognizing for the first time at least three radical principals: the sovereignty of individual rights; the separation of religious practice/belief and the authority of the secular civic power structure; and a more robust form representative government.
The correct notion that slavery was antithetical to these brand-new, developing ideas was still being worked out. Holding that slavery was intrinsically wrong had not been debated by the great majority of even western minds, much less the slave based economies of the rest of the world, and much much less a well accepted truth.
So, far from criticizing the revolutionary war heroes for their underdeveloped notion of human rights, they should be praised for trail blazing the path to emancipation and full human dignity for all.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:39 pm to Riggle
quote:Burns spends an inordinant amount of time focusing on the critiques rather than the history
I acknowledge that the founding fathers were men of their time, but implying these critiques are off base is stupid.
Sure, it's part of the story, but a fuller part of the story is what was accomplished not the flaws of the men
include the black people and the women that were integral to the history
Acknowledge that the FFs were flawed
but tell the story of how we got to where we are
not only the mistakes that were made in getting here
Look at baseball and the way he portrayed Ty Cobb his source for the racist Ty Cobb story has been proven to be in error By a sports writer who had an ax to grind against Cobb
as a historian Ken Burns should at least been aware of that and he was
he just chose to ignore that part of it and wanted to tell the story of the bigot
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:41 pm to HangmanPage1
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Ken Burns will have to surround himself with woke in any film making endeavors
Yeah, I would expect any documentary produced today to pass judgement on people long dead using today's standards. Will it be unwatchable? Have to wait and see.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:45 pm to Jimbeaux
well said
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:49 pm to icecreamsnowball
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His conversation with Rogan was excellent. I’m honestly not really sure what you’re trying to say though.
Yeah, I get that he's got a decent amount of white guilt, but he's overall bearable. If you can watch his docs knowing that going in, about 10-15% of it will focus on the plight of the black population during that era, the rest is usually fantastic.
It does sound like he'll have a little bit of shite about the Indians of Upstate NY influencing the politics of some of the founding fathers.
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