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Kip Thorne Explains Interstellar’s Ending to Neil deGrasse Tyson
Posted on 6/6/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/6/25 at 7:57 am
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:14 am to finchmeister08
That's pretty good. Giving me Foundation , 3 Body Problem vibes of the Quantum realm.
Mind bendy AF.
Mind bendy AF.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:24 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Interstellar has always seemed more like Nolan's 2001: A Space Odyssey to me. A helping hand from a far away place leading mankind in a forward direction. Black hole that brings the protagonist to another dimension.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:52 am to SCLSUMuddogs
My minor issue is that future ‘us’ somehow made Goliath. Why would/could we even go to that trouble? Just utilize it as a tool to accomplish the desired task.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:06 am to SouthEasternKaiju
I assumed it was a paradox, like you see in terminator.
John Connor had to send that soldier back in time because that soldier was his father and responsible for his existence.
Future us had to create the tesseract/wormhole because McConaughey's character had to give the code/formula to his daughter for them to exist.
John Connor had to send that soldier back in time because that soldier was his father and responsible for his existence.
Future us had to create the tesseract/wormhole because McConaughey's character had to give the code/formula to his daughter for them to exist.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:08 am to SCLSUMuddogs
Creat the wormhole yes, but the actual black hole?
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:10 am to SouthEasternKaiju
I assume the thought was that the black hole would allow McConaughey's character to access the higher dimension of space. Our concepts of space and time are supposed to breakdown inside a black hole, so perhaps entering one allows you to access higher dimensions of space.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:33 am to finchmeister08
This stuff amazes me, and I understand some of it. It's just so much scientific information, that my old brain can't keep up.
Probably explains why my brain can't comprehend the time dialation when Murphy goes to the water planet for an hour, and comes back and ten years have passed. I have watched some video's on that, and it just doesn't click in my brain. Is it because of that planet's orbit and the size of the planet?
Also, I don't remember Murphy's daughter getting the codes from the first word of the books on the shelf. I thought it was some morse code he was sending to the watch. Or some binary codes.
Probably explains why my brain can't comprehend the time dialation when Murphy goes to the water planet for an hour, and comes back and ten years have passed. I have watched some video's on that, and it just doesn't click in my brain. Is it because of that planet's orbit and the size of the planet?
Also, I don't remember Murphy's daughter getting the codes from the first word of the books on the shelf. I thought it was some morse code he was sending to the watch. Or some binary codes.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:25 am to Kracka
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Probably explains why my brain can't comprehend the time dialation when Murphy goes to the water planet for an hour, and comes back and ten years have passed. I have watched some video's on that, and it just doesn't click in my brain. Is it because of that planet's orbit and the size of the planet?
Time dilation is confusing. The gravitational pull from the black hole in the movie is supposed to be such that one hour on the surface of that planet equals 7 years from the perspective of the ship.
I kind of get time dilation when it comes to objects moving closer to the speed of light. Like how a photon gets to a point 1 light year away immediately from its perspective, but it took 1 year from ours. The gravity bit just hurts my brain
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:33 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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The gravitational pull from the black hole in the movie is supposed to be such that one hour on the surface of that planet equals 7 years from the perspective of the ship.
And I see this explanation a ton right? But my brain doesn't comprehend it because when I think about time/years, I think about the rotation and orbit of a planet. I am not thinking of it in terms of gravity.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:35 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Why would/could we even go to that trouble?
To quote a well-known YT humorist, "So the movie could happen".
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:44 am to Kracka
Yeah idk. I know that gravity and acceleration are directly related because gravity = mass X acceleration, but I can't quite wrap my head around it either. Hearing things like "the core of the earth is actually a couple of years younger than the surface" is equally confusing
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:02 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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I kind of get time dilation when it comes to objects moving closer to the speed of light. Like how a photon gets to a point 1 light year away immediately from its perspective, but it took 1 year from ours. The gravity bit just hurts my brain
Time dilation is, as you say, very confusing. It helps to remember that, for anything traveling at the speed of light, it will always see itself moving at the speed of light in its own frame of reference, but outside observers that do not share that frame of reference may see something very different depending on conditions. Imagine a photon that is emitted from just outside the event horizon of a black hole, where the escape velocity is 99% of light speed. From the point of view of the photon, it is zipping along at the speed of light just like it always does, and in a single second it moves 186,000 miles away from the black hole. From our perspective far away from the black hole, though, we see the photon barely moving away from the event horizon at all because it is held back by gravity. It may take years for the photon to reach 186,000 miles from the black hole from our perspective. That's why gravity fields cause time dilation, because of the escape velocity required to move from a point closer to the source of the field to a point further away.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:27 am to Kracka
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Also, I don't remember Murphy's daughter getting the codes from the first word of the books on the shelf. I thought it was some morse code he was sending to the watch. Or some binary codes.
This is what happened. It was Morse code. NDT must just be confused or didn't remember.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:58 am to finchmeister08
Tyson is such a tool.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:49 am to Mikes My Tiger
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This is what happened. It was Morse code. NDT must just be confused or didn't remember.
Yeah I was coming to post this as well. I don’t remember anything about the first letter of the books being utilized.
It was dots and dashes. Morse code. And maybe even 0s and 1s for binary at one point.
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