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Dudes rock: WFH couples mean the men get the better office

Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:18 pm
Mind you, this article is purely based on a novel

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im wary of gendered generalisations. They rightly raise hackles: we are unique, not defined by gender, not all men! But I was struck by one I read from Ella Risbridger in her review of Jessica Stanley’s recent novel, Consider Yourself Kissed. Exploring one of its themes, Risbridger wrote: “I have long noticed that in a house with one spare room and a heterosexual couple who both work from home, the spare room is where he works – with a door that shuts and perhaps even a designated desk – and she works somewhere else. (Always for good reasons, but always.)”

This stopped me in my tracks. Not because it’s my experience: my husband and I are lucky enough to have an office each, and mine is bigger and objectively nicer. I get the garden view; he has the ballet of Openreach and Amazon vans. (See – not all men.) It’s not Stanley’s experience either: she uses the spare bedroom; her husband has half the living room, she told the Cut’s Book Gossip newsletter.


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Rather, I was struck because having just read the Australian writer Helen Garner’s recently published diaries, How to End a Story, this is exactly the irreconcilable, constantly rehashed point of contention between her and her ex-husband, anonymised in the diaries as “V”.

V, also a writer, insists not only on appropriating the available room in their shared apartment for his office, but on Garner leaving while he works, her presence incompatible with his sacred need for silent isolation. Garner describes the quotidian pain of this situation (she wants to potter, play music, cook, see friends; her creativity is fuelled by these ordinary kinds of life), and the growing realisation of what it said about their relationship with shocking, powerful eloquence. V is aware of, but apparently unmoved by, her distress. They argue about it regularly.

Garner’s experience was so egregious as to be eye-poppingly enraging, but this happens more often in quieter, easier-to-overlook ways. I read and enjoyed Consider Yourself Kissed too – it’s a romance, but it also subtly builds a picture of the insidious sidelining of women’s work as expressed through domestic space. Set between 2013 and 2023, it’s particularly good on how this was amplified by Covid: the heroine’s political journalist husband sees his career go stratospheric and their spare room “somehow” becomes his study. He’s a nice man; he loves her; it just … happens.


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This rang true because it is: it did just happen. Structural pay equalities meant men – habitually the higher earners – staked the more obvious primary claim on working space in locked-down homes. Research shows women experienced more non-work interruptions, compounded when they didn’t have a “dedicated unshared workspace” – their emotional wellbeing suffered, but so did their professional lives. “My husband locks the room from the inside when he needs to concentrate,” a participant in an Indian study on pandemic working habits reported. “I don’t have that liberty. I have no room of my own.”

In 1929, Virginia Woolf wrote A Room of One’s Own as a riposte to the physical and economic exclusion of women from intellectual and professional spaces. In 2025, they can’t bar us from libraries, but intimate domestic spaces have proved stubbornly intractable. Back when men had inviolable studies and smoking rooms, there was an assumption that the domestic sphere was feminine, so they “needed” to escape the noise and mess of childrearing and homemaking. Now we’re ostensibly all in it together, doing conference calls in our slippers, but there are still more man caves than women’s. Because Risbridger is right: the recently released UK 2024 Skills and Employment survey found 60% of men had a dedicated room for work at home and only 40% of women. We still can’t manage to meet Woolf’s prescription.

There are not-all-men exceptions and happy endings. Garner escaped, thank God, eventually; and, without spoilers, Stanley’s heroine reclaims some space. But in real life, generally, women’s work is still given less and worse space, while the gender pay gap narrows agonisingly slowly. The two are surely related. When do we get that room of our own?


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Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:20 pm to
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There are not ... happy endings.

This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:21 pm to
I didn’t read a word of that article but I can confirm the thread title is true. I use the better office if I ever wfh on the same day my wife does.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:21 pm to
No way I’m reading that wall of text
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:24 pm to
My wife has the better home office ever since mine got turned into the nursery.
Posted by LSUstudent2006
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:27 pm to
Has the author written any articles on how women “just happen” to get the bigger side of the closet and larger bathroom vanity despite not often being the breadwinners?
Posted by LemmyLives
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:42 pm to
We're the ones that asked for the office (ETA: when buying/building the home) pre-COVID in probably 98% of cases anyway.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted by MRTigerFan
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
She can use my office when I'm not using it. Otherwise she's at the kitchen table. The way God intended wfh to be. Weird thing is that it was never even an issue and she never once questioned it. Kinda strange now that I think about it. I guess because I make more money it's just understood.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:17 pm to
I didn’t read all that shite but I get the better office because I’m single.

When I’m at my GFs I work from a spare bedroom on a folding table.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:19 pm to
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Wfh

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Men

No such thing
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
35741 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:28 pm to
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I didn’t read a word of that article but I can confirm the thread title is true. I use the better office if I ever wfh on the same day my wife does.


I work out on the balcony overlooking the pool, palm trees, park, marsh, and Ashley River. She works at the kitchen island or in the other bedroom on her WFH days
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 4:29 pm
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