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Robert Reich on big bill Making the rounds

Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:28 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:28 am
I haven’t read the bill so I don’t know, but we can start with the item number one and break that down…


This is from his Twitter account...which landed up on social media feed from a 70 year old white christian woman's post on FB...she hates Trump...

RR is a guy I have never liked... but libs love him,

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Friends,

The old professor in me thinks the best way to convey to you how utterly awful the so-called “one big beautiful bill” passed by the House last night actually is would be to give you this short ten-question exam. (Answers are in parenthesis below, but first try to answer without looking at them.)

1. Does the House’s “one big beautiful bill” cut Medicare? (Answer: Yes, by an estimated $500 billion.)

2. Because the bill cuts Medicaid, how many Americans are expected to lose Medicaid coverage? (At least 8.6 million.)

3. Will the tax cut in the bill benefit the rich or the poor or everyone?(Overwhelmingly, the rich.)

4. How much will the top 0.1 percent of earners stand to gain from it? (Nearly $390,000 per year).

5. If you figure in the benefit cuts and the tax cuts, will Americans making between about $17,000 and $51,000 gain or lose? (They’ll lose about $700 a year).

6. How about Americans with incomes less than $17,000? (They’ll lose more than $1,000 per year on average).

7. How much will the bill add to the federal debt? ($3.8 trillion over 10 years.)

8. Who will pay the interest on this extra debt? (All of us, in both our tax payments and higher interest rates for mortgages, car loans, and all other longer-term borrowing.)

9. Who collects this interest? (People who lend to the U.S. government, 70 percent of whom are American and most of whom are wealthy.)

10. Bonus question: Is the $400 million airplane from Qatar a gift to the United States for every future president to use, or a gift to Trump for his own personal use? (It’s a personal gift because he’ll get to use it after he leaves the presidency.)

Most Americans are strongly opposed to all of these things, according to polls. But if you knew the answers to these ten questions, you’re likely to be in a very tiny minority. That’s because of (1) distortions and cover-ups emanating from Trump and magnified by Fox News and other rightwing outlets. (2) A public that’s overwhelmed with the blitzkrieg of everything Trump is doing, and can’t focus on this. (3) Outright silencing of many in the media who fear retaliation from the Trump regime if they reveal things that Trump doesn’t want revealed.

Please do your part: Share this as widely as possible.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 6:23 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:33 am to

That midget pretending to care about number 7 is funny.
Posted by PrayingMantis
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:34 am to
Ur gay
Posted by bird35
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:37 am to
This is where having a honest media would be helpful. No matter if this bill is great or terrible I expect the media will tell us it’s the worst thing ever and will kill millions of children.

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:38 am to
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6. How about Americans with incomes less than $17,000? (They’ll lose more than $1,000 per year on average).


Not dunk on poor people but assume the lose hand out and not a tax increase ?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:40 am to
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9. Who collects this interest? (People who lend to the U.S. government, 70 percent of whom are American and most of whom are wealthy.)


Surprised it is 70 percent

Also mostly Grandma pension not some wealthy person lol
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:43 am to
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Not dunk on poor people but assume the lose hand out and not a tax increase ?


They might get less EITC.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:53 am to
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3. Will the tax cut in the bill benefit the rich or the poor or everyone?(Overwhelmingly, the rich.)

4. How much will the top 0.1 percent of earners stand to gain from it? (Nearly $390,000 per year).


So, people who pay a higher amount in taxes will save more when tax percentages are lowered. That's just math. I don't see why I should be upset over my taxes being lowered because someone who pays a higher dollar amount in taxes saves a higher dollar amount on the same tax reduction I get.

Reich being against the bill is a reason to support it.
Posted by stelly1025
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:08 am to
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Robert Reich 


Stopped here.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:11 am to
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1. Does the House’s “one big beautiful bill” cut Medicare? (Answer: Yes, by an estimated $500 billion.)

They have said it would put in work requirements for healthy Americans, and cut benefits to illegals.This was done in an effort to cut the programs expenditures without affecting our citizens who need it. They haven’t been secretive about this.
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2. Because the bill cuts Medicaid, how many Americans are expected to lose Medicaid coverage? (At least 8.6 million.)
Again, the claim is a healthy adult who’s 30 years old who doesn’t work because they are lazy will no longer get a free ride. They have been upfront about this.
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3. Will the tax cut in the bill benefit the rich or the poor or everyone?(Overwhelmingly, the rich.)

Of course, any tax cut will due to the progressive nature of the American tax system, as they are paying the bulk of the taxes.
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5. If you figure in the benefit cuts and the tax cuts, will Americans making between about $17,000 and $51,000 gain or lose? (They’ll lose about $700 a year).

6. How about Americans with incomes less than $17,000? (They’ll lose more than $1,000 per year on average).


This is disappointing, more should have been done to eliminate healthy, freeloading adults from milking the federal government of my tax dollars.
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7. How much will the bill add to the federal debt? ($3.8 trillion over 10 years.)
Your solution sounds like tax the rich, spend it on social programs, that won’t lower the debt either. My suggestion is it doesn’t cut nowhere near enough. By the way, my solution is the only solution to cut the debt, but I guarantee you would hate it way more than this bill.
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8. Who will pay the interest on this extra debt? (All of us, in both our tax payments and higher interest rates for mortgages, car loans, and all other longer-term borrowing.
What about the people who don’t pay Federal taxes? I don’t think they are making interest payments.
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9. Who collects this interest? (People who lend to the U.S. government, 70 percent of whom are American and most of whom are wealthy.)
Once again you don’t understand basic economics, it’s kind of hard to borrow money from poor people.
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10. Bonus question: Is the $400 million airplane from Qatar a gift to the United States for every future president to use, or a gift to Trump for his own personal use? (It’s a personal gift because he’ll get to use it after he leaves the presidency.)
Can’t argue this, our President should decline the gift, or at the very least donate it to the Smithsonian when his term ends.


I don’t think this is some gotcha post, most people know all this.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:15 am to
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$3.8 trillion over 10 years.


Is this correct? $380 billion per year? 2024 deficit was $1.8 trillion
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 5:16 am
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
912 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:39 am to
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They have said it would put in work requirements for healthy Americans


Community engagement requirements are for Medicaid; the OBBBA does not include them for Medicare. The 500 Billion is from the CBO response to Congressional inquiry and is based on required across the board cuts for sequestration. Congress would have to overturn or exempt sequestration for there to not be a spending cut
Posted by Dick Jacket
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:14 am to
If that little sawed off frick hates it, I love it. That’s all I need to hear.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55017 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:15 am to
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Ur gay


Good God this board has gone to hell...

What the hell is that comment for?

I share something the liberals are eating up, and I just wanted to see what the board knew about the talking points..

I haven't read the bill

I don't expect liberals to be honest about much

I just wanted to know if anyone here has a real insight

and then you come along and "Ur gay"...

Mature and helpful...

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55017 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:17 am to
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s this correct? $380 billion per year? 2024 deficit was $1.8 trillion


that was one of my questions

I would guess that is means "in addition to the already 2 trillion dollar deficit"

I haven't heard any republican eager to make cuts in spending


We all know the Democrats want more...
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55017 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:19 am to
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10. Bonus question: Is the $400 million airplane from Qatar a gift to the United States for every future president to use, or a gift to Trump for his own personal use? (It’s a personal gift because he’ll get to use it after he leaves the presidency.)
Can’t argue this, our President should decline the gift, or at the very least donate it to the Smithsonian when his term ends.


POTUS said the plane is going to Department of Defense...

where is this "personal gift" idea coming from?
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
565 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:21 am to
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This is where having a honest media would be helpful.
American globalists killed American journalism deader than a doornail. It is gone. Kaput!
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14414 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:23 am to
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would guess that is means "in addition to the already 2 trillion dollar deficit"
the question was how much it adds to the "debt" though.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55017 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:25 am to
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the question was how much it adds to the "debt" though.


Fair enough, some liberal economist is making certain assumptions and making projections as they do..

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
7094 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:29 am to
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I just wanted to know if anyone here has a real insight and then you come along and "Ur gay"... Mature and helpful...

Why r u gay
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