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I just heard John Solomon say there may be a pathway for the Freedom Caucus to get onboard

Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:08 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139353 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:08 pm
Get onboard with the Big Beautiful Bill.

That is, give the explicit power to the executive (Trump in this case) to cut as needed and where he cuts the money is returned back to the Treasury. With this approach the congressional big spenders get their appropriations and whatever cuts ensue are in the hands of Trump. Additionally with explicit language with the authority to cut from Congress it effectively eliminates the judicial branch from the equation. It would allow Trump to act more like a private sector CEO of the biggest corporation in the world.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113644 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:08 pm to
Ooooooo...

I like that
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156177 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:11 pm to
Yes, please.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27948 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:11 pm to
So they are ok with giving Trump total control over the government funding system? They are some limp betas if that’s their “compromise.”
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156177 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:12 pm to
From a limp beta…


Nice.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:13 pm to
I'm wary of that. I don't like anyone with that much power and presumed trust to do the right thing put into them without any checks. The assumption is Trump will cut.. but what if he doesn't?

ETA: I'm open to hearing why this is a good thing and changing my gut reaction to this.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 7:14 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139353 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:14 pm to
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So they are ok with giving Trump total control over the government funding system?


Congress sets the cap for spending. Trump gets to make the cuts.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:15 pm to
Good!!

Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:16 pm to
Kinda sounds like the line item veto
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134035 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:17 pm to
I like that idea but there ain't no way in hell a Dem appointed robed person, like D.C. district court Chief Judge James Boasberg ("Turn the plane around!"), is going to allow that law to be constitutional.

To paraphrase a line from SNL years ago, Boasberg will soon likely declare the U.S. Constitution unconstitutional...
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40548 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:18 pm to
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Kinda sounds like the line item veto


Kinda sounds like a bunch of pussies trying to get reelected.

Trump just said, frick it and blame it on me if you are a pussy.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113644 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Kinda sounds like the line item veto


He's not vetoing legislation or even lines from legislation. Essentially, it gets rid of "must spend" language and allows the executive to spend only what is necessary.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87209 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

The assumption is Trump will cut.. but what if he doesn't?



First I’m hearing of this plan.

But if Trump doesn’t make cuts then everything just stays the same. People are fighting against the cuts now. There have been marches and crazy people attacking Teslas over this.





Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27948 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Congress sets the cap for spending.

Didn’t they just raise the cap by 5 trillion dollars?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:22 pm to
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That is, give the explicit power to the executive (Trump in this case) to cut as needed and where he cuts the money is returned back to the Treasury.




They'll never agree to that.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9486 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:22 pm to
That’s true, they can blame it on Trump, and Trump don’t GAF
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139353 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

Didn’t they just raise the cap by 5 trillion dollars?


IDK. I can’t keep up.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87209 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

For FY 2025, the caps are set at $895 billion for defense and $711 billion for non-defense discretionary spending, reflecting a modest 1% increase from FY 2024 levels ($886 billion for defense, $704 billion for non-defense). These caps aim to reduce deficits by approximately $1.3 trillion over a decade.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139353 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

They'll never agree to that.


This is all fluid right now but they may agree to some version of allowing Trump to make the cuts. For example Trump can cut 50% of one agency but has no authority to cut another agency.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9154 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:28 pm to
If they get suppressors and sbr’s off the NFA….that is as big as roe v wade for gun rights advocates. That may be worth the spending this go round.
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