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MiLB is testing the automated check swing system
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:32 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:32 am


Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:36 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Why???? Let the umps do their job. They are not perfect and get blamed for missed calls far too often. Most people rag on them even though there are many examples during any game that the team cost themselves.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:59 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Umps get check swings right 9X out of 10.
This is overkill IMO
This is overkill IMO
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:01 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
45 degrees seems very generous to the batter.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:05 am to Master of Sinanju
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45 degrees seems very generous to the batter.
This removes subjectivity out of the equation, but I agree. Should be <30°
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:32 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Each team will have 1 check swing challenge and will retain successful challenges
So the umpires will still call checked swings and if the team disagrees then they can challenge?
A check swing is pretty easy to see by the 1st/3rd base umpire. Maybe it will be beneficial for those minor leagues that only use 2 umpires, but other than that it seems pointless.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:41 am to dukke v
quote:This is mind-numbing logic. Sporting events should be decided by teams alone
Most people rag on them even though there are many examples during any game that the team cost themselves.
I don’t know what it is about baseball that people have this bizarre tolerance for not getting calls right, but it’s wild
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:05 am to Master of Sinanju
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45 degrees seems very generous to the batter.
I always thought it was if the bat crosses the front of the plate but apparently there is no defined definition. But umps have generally followed the front of the plate definition so 45 degrees gives a huge advantage to the hitter.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:24 am to RemouladeSawce
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I don’t know what it is about baseball that people have this bizarre tolerance for not getting calls right, but it’s wild
Umpiring is an element of the sport that’s always been there. You want to subtract that element, and you’re begging the question of whether that subtraction is a good or bad thing.
When I say begging the question I mean you are acting as if it’s clear as day and unarguable that removing the umpiring element will make baseball better overall, when that is not the case.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:41 am to Zappas Stache
I saw some highlight of Sandy Kofax and a check swing then was like anything that didn’t reach your back
it was insane.
it was insane.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:43 am to Zappas Stache
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I always thought it was if the bar crosses the front of the plate but apparently there is no defined definition.
There is in college:
2-39 HALF SWING
An attempt by the batter to stop the forward motion of the bat while swinging,
which puts the batter in jeopardy of a strike being called. The half swing shall be called a strike if the barrel head of the bat passes the batter’s front hip. This does not apply to a bunt attempt when the batter pulls the bat back.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:43 am to Lexis Dad
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Umps get check swings right 9X out of 10.
This is overkill IMO
Agree
Focus on balls and strikes
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:38 am to Earnest_P
quote:It’s not removing umpiring, it’s changing to a form that hurdles considerably closer to 100% accuracy
When I say begging the question I mean you are acting as if it’s clear as day and unarguable that removing the umpiring element will make baseball better overall, when that is not the case.
Baseball is disproportionately suited to automation and review in general as most of the decision making is objective (not subjective like calling holding penalties). Ball or strike. Safe or out. Cleared fence or not.
It is quite clear as day. This defense of the indefensible is archaic and no one would tolerate this kind of thinking in any other sport
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:42 am to Lexis Dad
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Umps get check swings right 9X out of 10
I'd say 7/10 at best
It's a very difficult call to make in real-time
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:57 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Are the challenges coming from both teams on a potential check swing? Can an ump called swing be challenged just like a no called swing?
This would be setting up a definition of the rule if so, and one that seems to favor the batter more than is seemingly called right now. I would think umps call swings starting much earlier than at 45 degrees, or at least they should as going out to 44 degrees seems very generous.
This would be setting up a definition of the rule if so, and one that seems to favor the batter more than is seemingly called right now. I would think umps call swings starting much earlier than at 45 degrees, or at least they should as going out to 44 degrees seems very generous.
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