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Gdp report

Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:37 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:37 am
data is mixed under the hood
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 9:09 am
Posted by j1897
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:38 am to
winning
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:44 am to
quote:

-0.3 is minus -0.3.


Is this to say that -0.3 is +0.3?

This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73201 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:50 am to
This is legit insane.

I’m seeing respected Econ commentators (ie not just maga influencers) trying to downplay or add nuance to the report.

Are they trying to pump n dump?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:59 am to
There probably is some nuance to the reasoning (fundamentals vs. reversible influence) behind the drop, but as you say, a drop is a drop.

It’s not good, despite whatever bullshite cope comes out of the usual suspects.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:00 am to
Good thing the Biden administration changed the definition of “recession” so we can continue to avoid one
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4020 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:01 am to
Bad news is they didn’t change the definition of “depression”, so there’s still that.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6081 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:01 am to
Did you read it? Honestly didn't sound that bad.

Growth is artificially down because there was a 41% increase in imports (causing a 5% dip in GDP) because big companies were stocking up for the trade war. Next quarter will most likely have a massive artificial bump because of less imports coming in.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Growth is artificially down because there was a 41% increase in imports (causing a 5% dip in GDP) because big companies were stocking up for the trade war. Next quarter will most likely have a massive artificial bump because of less imports coming in.


Why would anyone care about the details, when they can just rant about a number they know nothing about
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3115 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Growth is artificially down because there was a 41% increase in imports (causing a 5% dip in GDP) because big companies were stocking up for the trade war. Next quarter will most likely have a massive artificial bump because of less imports coming in.
Agree. Three other points:

1. The government's automatic money printer has been turned off. That stupid thin air government money printing artificially inflates the GDP.

2. Numbers issued for Trump are always initially worse to make him look bad, and then revisions happen a couple of months later. It was the opposite for Biden and Obama.

3. Jerome Powell is actively trying to make Trump look bad.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4020 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:20 am to
Fed is going to restart QE in Q3 this year, in all likelihood, which will make Trumps policies look better than they have been.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
570 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:20 am to
Some of those imports are baked into the inventories number - which added +2.3% GDP.

This pre-tariff GDP number isn’t great especially when you pair it with the job report and PCE
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35454 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:24 am to
If we have to roll over 9 billion dollars in debt, the ten year is going to have to come down. The only way to do that nowadays (because faith in US long duration debt is toast) is for the fed to buy our treasuries. It’s going to be a hell of a print.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29282 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Sad thing is, this might be high water mark


At this point, it's just one data point. First negative quarter in a few years. Q2 and Q3 numbers will tell us how to read Q1.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:29 am to
quote:

This pre-tariff GDP number isn’t great especially when you pair it with the job report and PCE



Stagflation has arrived.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93674 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:51 am to
PCE yoy at 2.3

Time to cut Jerome stop playing politics and dont be too late like always
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9825 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:00 am to
Down from +2.4 growth in Q4. Inflation was awful but the economy was healthy until there was a complete 180 on strategy.

Anyone think we’ll have positive growth this quarter? Hello, recession.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4020 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:02 am to
It’s tough to say. Imports clearly impacted this report, and there will be a “rebound” next report, but after? Who knows?

The bottom line is taxes slow velocity of money, and tariffs are a tax.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
79265 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:25 am to
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There probably is some nuance to the reasoning (fundamentals vs. reversible influence) behind the drop, but as you say, a drop is a drop.


Yuuuge surge in imports this quarter. Imports are subtracted from GDP.

Government spending is also a component. The formula is G + I + C + (X - M).
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4893 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:33 am to
So what's coming out of the White House isn't politics?
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