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What would happen if we completely got out of Russia Ukraine conflict?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:15 pm
No money, no equipment, no peace talks etc
And yes, I do know that Russia would probably prevail...but what then?
Would Russia just take the areas they've demanded, and leave Ukraine alone?
How would the US be hurt by that
And yes, I do know that Russia would probably prevail...but what then?
Would Russia just take the areas they've demanded, and leave Ukraine alone?
How would the US be hurt by that
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:18 pm to ChatGPT of LA
They would likely stop after taking Ukraine. I doubt they try to advance into Poland because (1) NATO, and yes, we would get involved and Putin knows it and (2) Russia will have too many casualties to pursue any further.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:18 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Nothing. Let them two deal with it and may the best country win. Tell them both to frick off
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:31 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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What would happen if we completely got out of Russia Ukraine conflict?
Then that would free up a lot more money that we could send to Israel
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:35 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Russia conquers the whole country.
Then the genocide begins. Expect the political leadership to be captured and probably executed. Top generals? Executed. Soldiers? Executed. Don't think Putin would not do it.
Expect Putin to forcibly if necessary move ethnic Russians into all of Ukraine as Stalin did the Baltics.
Then the genocide begins. Expect the political leadership to be captured and probably executed. Top generals? Executed. Soldiers? Executed. Don't think Putin would not do it.
Expect Putin to forcibly if necessary move ethnic Russians into all of Ukraine as Stalin did the Baltics.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:44 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:No. Don't take my word for it. Just listen to what Putin has said about Russia's goals.
Would Russia just take the areas they've demanded, and leave Ukraine alone?
quote:LINK
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said peace with Ukraine will only take place "when we achieve our objectives".
Those "objectives do not change", he said, listing "denazification, demilitarisation and its neutral status". These are themes he has highlighted from the start of the war.
Putin wants Ukraine's sovereignty nullified so that Ukraine becomes a vassal state to Russia.
The "denazification" declaration means Putin intends to remove any and all ethnic Ukrainians who oppose Russia's occupation, just like what happened at the end of WWII.
Ukrainians conducted guerilla warfare against the Soviets well into the 1950's until the final holdouts of Ukrainian resistance to the Soviet occupation were killed in the far west of Ukrainian territory near the city of Lviv. (I've worked in Lviv and have seen the monuments the Ukrainians built to the resistance patriots after the fall of the Soviet Union.)
Russia conducted mass executions of Ukrainians then and will do so again.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:54 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Russia would probably prevail...but what then?
Would Russia just take the areas they've demanded, and leave Ukraine alone?
Russia is in the most favorable position to annex the Russia-sympathetic eastern Ukrainian territories. If they advance any further than that, they certainly end up in direct conflict with NATO boots on the ground. Russia has already won, but Ukraine has admirably put up one hell of a fight with Western armaments and support, and the reds would be beaten senseless in a full scale ground war against the West.
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How would the US be hurt by that
In the above scenario? We aren't affected much, if at all. Ukraine has become an international money laundering machine for the globohomo establishment and the more of that country the Russians control, the less the Soros cabal controls. That's a win-win.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:29 pm to ChatGPT of LA
someday you will all look back and pretend you knew along it was all grifting but you won't say it now
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:37 pm to ChatGPT of LA
The war would end. The EU can't afford it's own defense without the US paying our fair share to NATO, much less supplying Ukraine with weapons and money. If the EU would start spending thier fair share, the couldn't afford thier massive welfare support for their illegals. The mud people would revolt!
Trump is fricking this up. He should withdraw from NATO and stop funding Ukraines military, government, and government services.
It's totally unacceptable that our tax dollars continue to fund Ukrainian government and basic services. frick that. THAT isn't what I voted for.
Trump is fricking this up. He should withdraw from NATO and stop funding Ukraines military, government, and government services.
It's totally unacceptable that our tax dollars continue to fund Ukrainian government and basic services. frick that. THAT isn't what I voted for.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:41 pm to TigerAxeOK
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We aren't affected much, if at all. Ukraine has become an international money laundering machine for the globohomo establishment and the more of that country the Russians control, the less the Soros cabal controls. That's a win-win.
Agreed. All on OUR tax dollars!!! As we watch that UPS driver dressed dictator continually sabotage Trumps efforts for peace!!
This Ukraine shite has been allowed to go far enough. frick em. frick the EU.
Come on Trump, man up here.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 4:02 pm to ChatGPT of LA
One thing would be price increase on several metals. Nickle for one, which is used extensively in more grades of industrial piping.than I can name.
The Russians would control and used that to recoup their losses.
The Russians would control and used that to recoup their losses.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:34 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Realistically? There are good things that would happen and some bad things.
The good things is that it would save us a few dollars on the front end, but the bad is that it would probably cost us a lot more on the back end.
I argue Russia is too far in and too weak to finish the deal; they aren't taking over the Ukraine - they don't have the manpower, resources, leadership, will, etc. So, the Ukrainians will continue to kick the hell out of them for some time, and we hold on to 30-year-old Bradley's with half a dozen combat tours that have no real other practical value for us while we continue to pay for their maintenance, upkeep, housing, etc. costing us taxpayer money. So, we save a few bucks and the bad guys still lose.
The bad part is that the killing goes on even longer, something Trump has repeated over and over that he wants to stop, we pass on what could become a key ally in the long run, the Europeans and NATO allies get pissed at us because we aren't acknowledging an obvious threat, and the partnership, politically, militarily, economically, starts to chafe and that costs us hundreds of billions - potentially trillions - of dollars in the long run. I argue that we're stepping over dollars to get to pennies.
TLDR: Russia loses in the short run, something that was going to happen anyway, and we lose in the long run.
The good things is that it would save us a few dollars on the front end, but the bad is that it would probably cost us a lot more on the back end.
I argue Russia is too far in and too weak to finish the deal; they aren't taking over the Ukraine - they don't have the manpower, resources, leadership, will, etc. So, the Ukrainians will continue to kick the hell out of them for some time, and we hold on to 30-year-old Bradley's with half a dozen combat tours that have no real other practical value for us while we continue to pay for their maintenance, upkeep, housing, etc. costing us taxpayer money. So, we save a few bucks and the bad guys still lose.
The bad part is that the killing goes on even longer, something Trump has repeated over and over that he wants to stop, we pass on what could become a key ally in the long run, the Europeans and NATO allies get pissed at us because we aren't acknowledging an obvious threat, and the partnership, politically, militarily, economically, starts to chafe and that costs us hundreds of billions - potentially trillions - of dollars in the long run. I argue that we're stepping over dollars to get to pennies.
TLDR: Russia loses in the short run, something that was going to happen anyway, and we lose in the long run.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:36 pm to Tigergreg
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Russia will have too many casualties to pursue any further.
They can use more North Koreans as cannon fodder.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:49 pm to prplhze2000
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political leadership captured and executed
Please let this happen to Zelensky!
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:33 pm to Privateer 2007
Russia doesn’t want the burden of rebuilding Ukraine. They keep the eastern part and build a wall However if Zelensky keeps attacking Putin will have no choice but to destroy Kiev and Zelensky totally
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:04 pm to Leopold
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I argue Russia is too far in and too weak to finish the deal; they aren't taking over the Ukraine - they don't have the manpower, resources, leadership, will, etc.
I agree with this. Russia doesn't seem like a threat to take over European territory and I don't think they ever wanted to do that. I don't think they ever intended to launch a ground war into Europe because it was a war that Putin knew he couldn't win and didn't want to fight. More likely he wanted to stop Ukraine from entering NATO and didn't want to lose access to Crimea. Which leads me to this.
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we pass on what could become a key ally in the long run, the Europeans and NATO allies get pissed at us because we aren't acknowledging an obvious threat, and the partnership, politically, militarily, economically, starts to chafe and that costs us hundreds of billions - potentially trillions - of dollars in the long run.
Which key ally? And what obvious threat are we not acknowledging? The threat to the US is fighting and financing a war we can't afford and shouldn't be involved in. Our days of being able to police the world are over. What Europe seems to be doing is dragging the US into a war outside of NATO. If fighting and funding non-NATO wars that are not in the US national security interest is the cost of being in the alliance, our membership deserves introspection.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:09 pm to ChatGPT of LA
It is the right thing to do.
We have no business there.
USAID and Biden provoked that war with their nonsense, and they let it get out of control.
Russia deserves all of Ukraine at this point. Let them have it.
We have no business there.
USAID and Biden provoked that war with their nonsense, and they let it get out of control.
Russia deserves all of Ukraine at this point. Let them have it.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:25 pm to ChatGPT of LA
I thought Trump pulled all of Ukraine's funding??
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:31 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Ukraine becomes part of Russia.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:09 pm to Leopold
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The bad part is that the killing goes on even longer, something Trump has repeated over and over that he wants to stop,
Not my problem. We all hate death, but we are the USA, and not responsible for the world's conflicts
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:32 pm
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