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The Iran negotiations

Posted on 4/12/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 1:42 pm
Word on street that Witkoff (trump’s envoy to ME) made very good progress with the first round or talks with Iran in Oman.
He is facing pushback from the necons in the administration headed by Rubio, who doesn’t like negotiations, and is taking Israel’s stance of attacking Iran via air strikes.
We will find out soon which direction will Trump go with.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71464 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:05 pm to
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We will find out soon which direction will Trump go with.

"Yes. Maybe. Maybe not."
-DJT
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20924 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:09 pm to
“Maybe go frick yourself”
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21216 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:12 pm to
I don't want new wars and all, but even the remote possibility of Iran attaining a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. Negotiations with them are impossible, as the last few decades have proven.

Its not all about Israel. Think about if Iran had a nuclear weapon or even threatened to have one.
They could hold the entire Middle East hostage.
frick that.
Remember, these are the same maniacs that have been funding Hamas, the Houties, and Hezbola. Their religious beliefs allow them to strap bombs on men, women, and teenagers and walk into a cafe, a bus, a public market and kill themselves and as many innocents as possible.

Tell me. How the frick can you negotiate with that?
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:15 pm to
Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from Israel and the West when they want “regime change.” In other words, a Israel/Western puppet.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13422 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:18 pm to
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"Yes. Maybe. Maybe not."
-DJT


Yep. Exactly.

And how well has that tactic worked out for him so far in his entire life, least of all, making all the world but China bend the knee on Tariffs?

And I'm giving China about a month to creak its economically brittle bones down to the floor.

Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14699 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:32 pm to
Or, they have them and they join the ranks of the Big Boys and the responsibility that goes with it...just another vantage point
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
13422 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from Israel and the West when they want “regime change.” In other words, a Israel/Western puppet.


So we should allow psychotic, deranged Muslim jihadist extremists to have nukes so THEY can terrorize other countries into regime change?

You'd have to have a special fondness for these Goat Rapists to allow that.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:10 pm to
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So we should allow psychotic, deranged Muslim jihadist extremists to have nukes so THEY can terrorize other countries into regime change?


Had Biden attacked Iran, you would have gone apeshit.

If Trump does it, it's the right move.

Pivot!!
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13422 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Had Biden attacked Iran, you would have gone apeshit.


Yeah, Apeshit is celebrating in the streets.

Put down Hunter's crack pipe. No doubt you've had more than enough hits already.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7606 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:20 pm to
Consider this : Iran gets nukes and decides to nuke Saudi Arabi in order to turn all of its' oil radioactive and thus rendering it useless for thousands of years.

What then happens to the price of Iranian oil ?

Sounds like Goldfinger 2.0 .
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13422 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:30 pm to
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Had Biden attacked Iran, you would have gone apeshit.

If Trump does it, it's the right move.

Pivot!!


Well, fair enough, I'll allow that.

As long as you show me a post where I so much as said Dementia Joe shouldn't nuke those Iranian Goat rapists to stop them from getting nukes...
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21216 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from Israel and the West when they want “regime change.” In other words, a Israel/Western puppet.


You speak as if we're talking about a reasonable and trustworthy regime. As I described in my post, these people are savages and pay other less sophisticated savages to do thier bidding. Such as strapping bombs to women and teenagers to detonate in buses, cafes, and markets killing themselves and other innocent folks that happen to be there. Also, supplying savages with missiles to sink ships that have nothing to do with them and interrupt international shipping.
It's impossible to negotiate with sociopaths that have plainly stated their only goal is to kill all Jews and infidels. Hint, you and I are considered infidels
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21216 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Or, they have them and they join the ranks of the Big Boys and the responsibility that goes with it...just another vantage point


I have to believe if they did have em, they would have already played that hand.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108112 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:04 pm to
This isn’t just an Israel issue you dolt
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73933 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:14 pm to
Israel has stated to the world they will not tolerate nukes in Iran.
Ok. Seems clear to me.
So why are WE being discussed?
I'm sure we will back Israel in most conflicts.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5035 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:38 pm to
We need cover when we destroy their entire nuclear program. We need to be able to say we tried to negotiate but they wouldn't budge. There undoubtedly will be a lot of dead and I'm guessing some nuclear material exposed.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25190 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:44 pm to
Remember that time we engineered a coup in Iran?

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21216 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Had Biden attacked Iran, you would have gone apeshit.

If Trump does it, it's the right move.

Pivot!!


Well, THAT would've never happened!! SMH
Biden allowed Iran access to billions of dollars that was withheld under Trumps sanctions, and gave them additional billions of our tax dollars!
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43903 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 5:46 pm to
How could anyone say objectively that a nuke isn’t in Iran’s best interests?
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