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Fed’s Kashkari: Rising bond yields, falling dollar mean investors are moving away from US

Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:27 am
10y treasury is up over 55 basis points this week while the dollar has fallen 3% vs a basket of global currencies.

CNBC

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“Investors around the world have viewed America as the best place to invest, and if that’s true, we will have a trade deficit. So now one of the ways that expresses itself is in lower yields across asset classes in America,” Kashkari said. “If the trade deficit is going to go down, it could be that investors are saying, OK, America no longer is the most attractive place in the world to invest, and then you would expect to see bond yields go up.”

Kashkari noted, however, that he is seeing “stresses” but not significant dislocations in market functioning.


Not ideal for the deficit (interest expense) and refinancing narrative, especially after yields were working in our favor through the end of March.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2622 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:31 am to
It has also been one week. I don't get why so many people live off the whim of a few days on these things. Why don't we just check back in October and see everybody crawfish out of their stances then?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11955 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:32 am to
That is way too precise of a conclusion to be anywhere in the realm of accurate
Posted by Gifman
Sanibel, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:32 am to
lol CNBC
Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1352 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:33 am to
Yes, definitely creating some bumpiness with the recent geopolitical moves. But the US still has good fundamentals with its large consumer base and generally business friendly govt. Most of what has happened this month can just as quickly be undone. It’s the uncertainty causing the problem. No one knows what will happen but hopefully after all the back and forth something will be negotiated to save enough face for everyone and bring some certainty or semblance of “normal” back to world trade.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14241 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:34 am to
Its at the same level it was in December.

Trump is doing unprecedented but necessary things.

Markets & bonds don’t know how to react so precursor markers aren’t helpful. Bunch of nevertrumpers hoping for a recession because China is dumping bonds
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101846 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Investors around the world have viewed America as the best place to invest, and if that’s true, we will have a trade deficit. So now one of the ways that expresses itself is in lower yields across asset classes in America,” Kashkari said. “If the trade deficit is going to go down, it could be that investors are saying, OK, America no longer is the most attractive place in the world to invest


This makes zero sense to me. If investors invested in U.S. that means they’re making product in the U.S. or providing a service in the U.S. How can that increase the trade deficit? It should have either little effect or reduce the deficit if they export the product or service from the U.S. to other countries

Are they trying to say the money coming into the U.S. as investment is counted monetarily towards the total imports?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91583 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:35 am to
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That is way too precise of a conclusion to be anywhere in the realm of accurate


Yeah I think extrapolating to conclude the US is no longer a safe haven is quite the leap.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Fed’s Kashkari: Rising bond yields, falling dollar mean investors are moving away from US


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91583 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:38 am to
Been an interesting week for the cut now crowd SDV. You got the cpi/ppi you needed but rates are not cooperating.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:39 am to
Sane fricks who said inflation was transitory abd nobody should worry
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14241 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:39 am to
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Been an interesting week for the cut now crowd SDV. You got the cpi/ppi you needed but rates are not cooperating.


Powell isn’t cooperating**

He’ll be forced to cut sometime between now and June
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:40 am to
You cannot trust CNBC.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91583 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:40 am to
quote:

It has also been one week. I don't get why so many people live off the whim of a few days on these things. Why don't we just check back in October and see everybody crawfish out of their stances then?


Wait and see isn’t very exciting. It’s also not what many institutions tend to do, for better or worse.

FWIW, I agree with you. Just as stocks are attractive, so to are bonds here.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2207 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:41 am to
quote:

It has also been one week. I don't get why so many people live off the whim of a few days on these things. Why don't we just check back in October and see everybody crawfish out of their stances then?


Right. Seems like a weird thing to say after a few days of activity. If I didn't know any better I would think he is playing politics on this.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35657 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:42 am to
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CNBC


GTFO.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to
Just curious, do you nut jobs spend all day searching for news that could be portrayed as negative?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11761 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:

This makes zero sense to me. If investors invested in U.S. that means they’re making product in the U.S. or providing a service in the U.S. How can that increase the trade deficit? It should have either little effect or reduce the deficit if they export the product or service from the U.S. to other countries Are they trying to say the money coming into the U.S. as investment is counted monetarily towards the total imports?


Bond yields is specifically talking about Investing in US Treasury securities. We’ve learned that Japan recently sold a bunch of them.

This movement indicates the belief that the US Treasury is no longer being viewed as the #1 safest investment.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
88305 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Between 2021 and 2025, the U.S. dollar's purchasing power has decreased by approximately 15.3%.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14241 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Between 2021 and 2025, the U.S. dollar's purchasing power has decreased by approximately 15.3%.


Printing out trillions do that
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