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Water From Mexico?

Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:57 am
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:57 am
How does this work? How is Mexico blocking water from Mexico to get to our farmers?

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Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33431 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:58 am to
The first paragraph
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President Donald Trump threatened to impose tariffs, and possibly sanctions against Mexico, if it continues to rob South Texas farmers of Rio Grande water promised under a decades-old treaty.

Eta from googles
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The U.S. agreed to deliver a specific amount of water from the Colorado River to Mexico annually, and in return, Mexico agreed to deliver a specific amount of water to the U.S. from the Rio Grande over a five-year cycle.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
1180 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:00 am to
It’s amazing how hard Trump fights for this country. Nobody outside of South Texas has ever heard of this problem until now.

Making water great again!
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14180 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:01 am to
It is a treaty from 1944 to water share with Mexico, we give them water in Tijiuana, they give us water in Southern Texas... goes on 5yr cycles.

Biden let it slide, which sucked for Texas... Trump is handling it by cutting off Tijiuana.

quote:

Under the treaty designed to allocate shared water resources, Mexico is required to send 1.75 million acre-feet of water from the Rio Grande to the U.S. over a five-year cycle.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20422 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:02 am to
They arent talking about the impact he’s had to California farmers by forcing them to relax water policy post wildfires.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:03 am to
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Water From Mexico?


Go to Google Earth and zoom in to the two reservoirs I have pinned below and you will see the tributaries that flow into them from Mexico. Mexico controls those tributaries.

Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21467 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:04 am to
Ah Amistad. Big basses.
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
1180 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:07 am to
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They arent talking about the impact he’s had to California farmers by forcing them to relax water policy post wildfires.


The “ Putting People over Fish” memorandum was pretty popular with farmers. I assume you meant a good impact?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5889 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:09 am to
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It’s amazing how hard Trump fights for this country. Nobody outside of South Texas has ever heard of this problem until now.

Making water great again!

Very true. Fighting for the farmers I'm sure is key, but I'm also sure Musk is in his ear asking for help here. Elon is needing a lot of water for his stuff in South TX. I wonder if this has anything to do with MX argument.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:10 am to
quote:

It is a treaty from 1944 to water share with Mexico, we give them water in Tijiuana, they give us water in Southern Texas... goes on 5yr cycles.

Biden let it slide, which sucked for Texas... Trump is handling it by cutting off Tijiuana.


Tijauna is no where near Texas. Tijauna gets water primarily from the Colorado River, IIRC.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:11 am to
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Tijauna is no where near Texas. Tijauna gets water primarily from the Colorado River, IIRC.


Bruh

quote:

The U.S. agreed to deliver a specific amount of water from the Colorado River to Mexico annually, and in return, Mexico agreed to deliver a specific amount of water to the U.S. from the Rio Grande over a five-year cycle.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14180 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:11 am to
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Tijauna is no where near Texas. Tijauna gets water primarily from the Colorado River, IIRC.


That's the treaty... we give to Tijauana, they give to Texas. Lemme go look up a better link than fox.. brb

edit... here's better info from Twitchy, believe it or not.

quote:

The 1944 Water Treaty with Mexico is an agreement in which the United States delivers water from the Colorado River to Mexico.

In exchange, Mexico delivers water from the Rio Grande to the United States.

The treaty works in five-year cycles, and over the current cycle, Mexico has not been living up to its end of the bargain, leaving farmers in Texas high (and literally) dry.

The current cycle, which began in 2020, required Mexico to deliver 1.75 million acre-feet of water to Texas. They are currently 1.3 million acre-feet short.

For reference, 1 acre-foot of water is just under 326 thousand gallons. That water allows farmers to irrigate their crops and supplies local towns with drinking water.

Why would Mexico short our supply under the treaty? In a recent interview on Fox Business, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins explained that they are expanding agriculture on their side of the border and are simply keeping the water for themselves.


Twitchy
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 8:14 am
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5889 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:12 am to
The dire wolf thing is interesting here. Tell the lefties that they'll save the genes for the endangered thing they are worried about and it can be brought back if whatever they are using it to hold up extincts them. Win win.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:12 am to
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That's the treaty... we give to Tijauana, they give to Texas.


Okay, gotcha.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:14 am to
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Bruh


I didn't read that post.

As an engineer my initial reaction was to look at the physics of the problem and not the legal agreement.

When someone ask: "How does this work?", my initial thought is nature, not manmade legalese.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:18 am to
This ain't the thermodynamics board
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20422 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

The “ Putting People over Fish” memorandum was pretty popular with farmers. I assume you meant a good impact?

The Central Valley is the closest we have in America to the garden of Eden.

It’s 1% of our arable land yet produces 50% of our fruits and 25% of our nuts.

But even an area as fertile as the valley needs water and at least for now Trump has unlocked it from a productivity standpoint.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85844 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:21 am to
People were melting about tariffs because they were told to.

Lots of zombies just walking around.


Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92534 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:26 am to
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Why would Mexico short our supply under the treaty? In a recent interview on Fox Business, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins explained that they are expanding agriculture on their side of the border and are simply keeping the water for themselves.


This is exactly what they are doing. You can't run that much of a deficit and not be using that water somewhere.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14180 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:29 am to
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This is exactly what they are doing. You can't run that much of a deficit and not be using that water somewhere.


And Biden let them get away with it... no renegotiation, just reneging on a contract. America Last.
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