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Chemical company considers action against Louisiana over misuse of products in execution

Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53897 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:01 pm
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The Louisiana Department of Public Safety & Corrections may have used compressed gas from a Pennsylvania company in the March 18 state execution of Jessie Hoffman, despite the fact that the company prohibits the use of its products for the purpose of killing people.

The office of Gov. Jeff Landry, an avid supporter of the death penalty, directed a request for comment by Gambit to the Department Public Safety & Corrections. Under a public records law passed last year, the department does not reveal information which could identify people or companies involved in executions. The department did not respond to a request for information about its procurement process.

However, photographs of the equipment used in Hoffman’s execution, which was done with the use of nitrogen gas, appear to show cylinders of compressed gas produced by Airgas may have been used.

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Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
1498 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:03 pm to
first downvote !
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175503 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:05 pm to
There are strong arguments that you can't prohibit someone from using your product how they see fit once they legally purchase it

The right to repair argument and first sale doctrine both highlight this and I am sure there are several others


ETA: restrictions would be infringing on patents and copyrights which doesnt apply here
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by lsudat10
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2010
2784 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:26 pm to
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There are strong arguments that you can't prohibit someone from using your product how they see fit once they legally purchase it


Every buffet-goer knows this
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13055 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:32 pm to
Why aren't we just using fentanyl for this? Every junkie can find it and it is effective on all humans except George Floyd.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16384 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:34 pm to
Liberals just never give up, credit where it’s due.

Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28420 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Why aren't we just using fentanyl for this? Every junkie can find it and it is effective on all humans except George Floyd.


Or propofol. Count backwards from 100 and you're gone before you get to 95.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15624 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 1:40 pm to
Easiest way to put these people down is with confiscated fentanyl. The cartels are not going to sue anyone over their use.

Give the condemned a little bump to make them sleepy, then give them 10x a lethal dose.

Problem solved.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
1498 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:17 pm to
maybe some IV KCL [ potassium chloride } after the fentanyl as a coup de grâce
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:27 pm to
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despite the fact that the company prohibits the use of its products for the purpose of killing people.


Once the sale is transacted, it’s no longer their property and they don’t get to make that decision.

They can always shut down the company and/or stop selling the product in question.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31931 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:29 pm to
Gun company sues murderer for misusing product.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53897 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:41 pm to
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There are strong arguments that you can't prohibit someone from using your product how they see fit once they legally purchase it


If companies can refuse to sell drugs for lethal injection cocktails to the state then an argument can probably be made that the company would have refused the sale had the state been up front about its intended use, particularly if the terms of use say that the chemicals cannot be used to o kill someone.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78809 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:50 pm to
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If companies can refuse to sell drugs for lethal injection cocktails to the state then an



But won’t stop selling and using fentanyl and other opioids.

Glad big pharma has found some morals by not selling these same drugs to prisons.

But lethal injection under a bridge is cool.


And I’m glad they can refuse to do things they don’t want, unlike Catholics when it comes to abortions. Or Christians baking cakes.






This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6156 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:54 pm to
AirGas bottles are rentals, would that have any bearing?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175503 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 3:00 pm to
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then an argument can probably be made that the company would have refused the sale had the state been up front about its intended use,


Only if they are making it a normal practice to ask every buyer the intended use of the product. If they aren't doing that they really have no argument.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 3:34 pm to
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AirGas bottles are rentals, would that have any bearing?


Not really considering they are not technically creating nitrogen. They are just separating the oxygen, h20 and co2 of common air.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5114 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 4:00 pm to
What a retarded post.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5114 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Only if they are making it a normal practice to ask every buyer the intended use of the product. If they aren't doing that they really have no argument.


Even if they did, they still wouldn’t have a cause of action to sue. Once you purchase a product, generally speaking, you can do what you want with it.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48734 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Or propofol. Count backwards from 100 and you're gone before you get to 95.
I feel so good after being administered it before different surgical procedures. Wish there was a safe way to use this at home for a really nice 8 hours of sleep, but don't want to be Michael Jacksoned.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53897 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Only if they are making it a normal practice to ask every buyer the intended use of the product. If they aren't doing that they really have no argument.


If there use a label that says “not for use to kill anyone” there is presumed agreement when someone purchases it.
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