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This sure sounds like a terrorist organization to me
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:42 pm
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On 11 April 2024, Chilean authorities implicated Tren de Aragua in the murder of Ronald Ojeda, a Venezuelan political dissident and opponent to Nicolás Maduro who had been living in exile in Chile. Ronald was kidnapped on 21 February and his body was discovered 10 days later inside a bag which had been cemented over. Chilean authorities accused Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, of ordering Tren de Aragua to carry out the killing and paying the assassins.
Peru
Due to Tren de Aragua's heavy presence in Lima, there were increased sentiments of xenophobia against Venezuelans. Following clashes between Peruvians and Venezuelan migrants at the Gamarra Market in Lima, the "Los Gallegos" chapter of the Tren de Aragua released a video stating "There will be no peace for Peruvians who support xenophobia. We will begin to kill all the Peruvian motorized people", threatening to kill Peruvian motortaxi drivers. In 2023 alone, at least 183 suspected members were arrested.
On 11 April 2024, Chilean authorities implicated Tren de Aragua in the murder of Ronald Ojeda, a Venezuelan political dissident and opponent to Nicolás Maduro who had been living in exile in Chile. Ronald was kidnapped on 21 February and his body was discovered 10 days later inside a bag which had been cemented over. Chilean authorities accused Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, of ordering Tren de Aragua to carry out the killing and paying the assassins.
Peru
Due to Tren de Aragua's heavy presence in Lima, there were increased sentiments of xenophobia against Venezuelans. Following clashes between Peruvians and Venezuelan migrants at the Gamarra Market in Lima, the "Los Gallegos" chapter of the Tren de Aragua released a video stating "There will be no peace for Peruvians who support xenophobia. We will begin to kill all the Peruvian motorized people", threatening to kill Peruvian motortaxi drivers. In 2023 alone, at least 183 suspected members were arrested.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:58 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Remember the president doesn’t have any executive authority. Especially naming cartel murders and rapists as terrorists.
The best legal minds told us so.
The best legal minds told us so.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:20 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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The best legal minds told us so.
Our resident ambulance chaser has been stamping his feet that Tren de Aragua isn’t a terrorist organization.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:21 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Our resident ambulance chaser has been stamping his feet that Tren de Aragua isn’t a terrorist organization.
boosie? Hank? Decatur? Bunk?
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:21 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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the president doesn’t have any executive authority.
An argument nobody made
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:23 pm to thebigmuffaletta
I don’t give a frick, get them all the frick out.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:27 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Not only are they terrorists, they are directly tied to Maduro through his cartel. The opposition party in Venezuela has repeatedly said he controls TdA. Everyone in the Western hemisphere acknowledges this except for Maduro and American leftists.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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An argument nobody made
The judge disagrees
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Boasberg on Saturday ordered the administration to refrain from removing anyone from the country under Trump’s claimed authority after five Venezuelans who feared deportation under the Alien Enemies Act filed suit. Those five men apparently remain in the country, in U.S. custody. But planes carrying about 250 other Venezuelan nationals
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“Any plane that you put into the air in or around that time, you knew that I was having a hearing at 5,” the judge said
He ordered aliens to be returned, despite not a single one of them having filed with his court
Most assuredly sounds like questioning a presidents authority
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:33 pm to RobbBobb
What if the President is wrong in his application of the law? Is there any review of that?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:34 pm to Bunk Moreland
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What if the President is wrong in his application of the law? Is there any review of that?
Why aren't we asking why progressives want Tren de Aragua in this country so damn bad that people who want them deported have to go to this length to do so?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:35 pm to RobbBobb
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The judge disagrees
He did not rule the president doesn’t have any executive authority.
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Boasberg on Saturday ordered the administration to refrain from removing anyone from the country under Trump’s claimed authority
That's an injunction on the authority, which proves the president has authority in the first place, proving my point.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:36 pm to Azkiger
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Why aren't we asking why progressives want Tren de Aragua in this country so damn bad
They don't. That's why nobody is asking that question.
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that people who want them deported have to go to this length to do so?
Nothing prevents normal, or even expedited, deportation proceedings to Venezuela. The Trump admin chose a novel and particularly aggressive legal strategy, and that strategy is what's being discussed exclusively.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 pm to Bunk Moreland
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What if the President is wrong in his application of the law? Is there any review of that?
What if a judge ruled in a class action case, without there being an identified group? Wheres the review of that?
He just sought to halt any and all flights AND THEN asked for the govts data on the passengers. Sounds like he is WAY out of his jurisdiction. You have to err on the side of Article II in that event, until the Supremes weigh in, or not
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They don't.
This is why no one takes you seriously.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:41 pm to Azkiger
The plaintiff in the case are arguing that they are not Venezuelan gang members and deserve a chance to actually defend themselves and continue to apply for asylum.
Trump sent them to El Salvador Super Jail while the judge was ruling.
Trump sent them to El Salvador Super Jail while the judge was ruling.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:41 pm to Azkiger
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This is why no one takes you seriously.
Because I point out silly arguments and strawmen?
People questioning this move are ambivalent at worst about TDA. This isn't about them, no matter how much the echo chamber wants to try to make it about them.
This is about the actions of the admin and the legal-political analysis of those actions. Nothing more.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:41 pm to SammyTiger
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The plaintiff in the case are arguing that they are not Venezuelan gang members and deserve a chance to actually defend themselves and continue to apply for asylum.
Trump sent them to El Salvador Super Jail while the judge was ruling.
How many Tren de Aragua did Biden deport?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:42 pm to Azkiger
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How many Tren de Aragua did Biden deport?
More questions not relevant to the discussion.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Because I point out silly arguments and strawmen?
No, because you pretend that progressives aren't constantly hamstringing legal deportation methods.
What color are sanctuary states and cities? Blue or red?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:43 pm to Azkiger
Trump can deport all the gang bangers he wants after he makes sure they’re gang bangers.
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