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Michael Bay can't get greenlit anymore

Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:40 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:40 pm
Love him or hate him, Michael Bay is responsible for some of the most over-the-top blockbuster films in cinema history. Bad Boys, The Rock, Armageddon, and Transformers immediately come to mind when you think of his name. Now he and other "blockbuster" directors are struggling to get their projects greenlit.

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During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Michael Bay reflected on a recent conference call he had with James Cameron "commiserating about Hollywood." The two talked about how difficult it is to get projects greenlit today in Hollywood. During the interview, the director remembered how different it was when Armageddon was greenlit back in the late 1990s. Read his full comments below:

I just had a conference call with Jim Cameron and we were both commiserating about Hollywood. No one can greenlight anything anymore. It’s just so slow. It’s a very different business. During Armageddon, those were the days. We had Jonathan Hensleigh, the writer. We sat down for two or three weeks. We had the NASA guy come into my office. We worked out this 20-minute pitch. We go into [former Walt Disney Chairman] Joe Roth’s office. This would be my third movie. And Joe, he’s like a real old time, cool studio executive. He goes, “That’s going to be my July 4th movie. I want to name it Armageddon.” We walk out and we’re looking at each other. “Did he just greenlight that movie?” That doesn’t happen now. But that’s how it used to happen.

Michael Bay raises an important issue about the current state of Hollywood. However, it's not exactly that "no one can greenlight anything anymore," as Bay says, as much as the type of project that Hollywood greenlights has changed. There are fewer and fewer original, standalone, big-budget action movies, the kind that Bay used to specialize in with The Rock, Armageddon, and more. Instead, franchise films and projects based on pre-existing IPs are much more commonly greenlit today, which Bay experienced firsthand with the Transformers franchise.

It's telling that Bay was "commiserating about Hollywood" with Cameron who, as previously mentioned, is also one of the most commercially successful directors of all time and shouldn't have any trouble getting his projects greenlit by studios. However, for more than the past decade, Cameron has struggled getting his Last Train from Hiroshima movie off the ground. Instead, he has seemingly resigned to making Avatar movies for the time being, with three more sequels on the way after The Way of Water.


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Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:05 pm to
I'd go for a Michael Bay-type movie this summer
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78827 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:00 pm to
Making a decade of shitty Transformers movies probably didn't help
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27184 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:03 pm to
I was watching Crimson Tide the other day and reflecting on how movies like that aren't even a thought anymore.

Did superhero movies replace this genre? I feel like they are very different types of films, and the public would react positively to a well-made popcorn action flick.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4513 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:06 pm to
If it's not a comic book movie no studio is exactly eager to drop $200+ million on a CGI packed action flick.

Plus Bay likes to cast hot chicks and that's not allowed anymore.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78827 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:17 pm to
They're still making movies from one of his franchises. The last two didn't cost 200 mil combined. He basically priced himself out of the franchise.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73859 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:27 pm to
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I'd go for a Michael Bay-type movie this summer
I really regret clowning on how shlocky and over the top explode-y his films were


but oh how I didn't know any better...

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69937 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:28 pm to
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He basically priced himself out of the franchise.


He didn't want to do the last two anyway. Spielberg told him after the third film that he should stop or else he'd start to get burnt out on the franchise. He followed his advice but then the studio came to him begging to direct the fourth film, throwing a shite ton of money at him. He made it, it was a box office hit, and then he said that was his last one. Then the studio came back to him again, pressuring him to direct a fifth film, throwing even more money at him. He did it but then refused to come back after the fifth one was made.

He has been one of the producers on the last two Transformers movies but he stepped away from directing the franchise because he grew tired of it. Not because he priced himself out of it.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78827 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:30 pm to
I'm talking about Bad Boys
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69937 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:39 pm to
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I'm talking about Bad Boys



Ah, yes. That franchise. Well...Michael Bay and Will Smith together would be too much for the studio to afford. When push comes to shove, the bankable star always beats out the director when you have to choose one or the other.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71076 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:54 pm to
It’s wild he’s only 60. Seems like he’s been making giant blockbusters forever.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 11:36 am to
I’m really surprised Bay is only 60 years old. I thought he would be a lot older than that. He was only 30-33 years old when he made Bad Boys, The Rock, and Armageddon.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115643 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:42 pm to
While I agree strongly with the sediment that there should be more support and money thrown into original ideas, it’s hard to have much sympathy from a director that had a blank check for 30 years and played a heavy hand in the overall tentpole/IP atmosphere where it’s 300 million dollar budgets or bust, when the real issue is the 20-100 million dollar movies have been completely removed from the equation

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:57 pm to
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While I agree strongly with the sediment
Yeah, but nothing is set in stone. There are many layers to it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115643 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:12 pm to
spare me I’m rock brained
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14421 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:18 pm to
Looks like Bay took his decades of unlimited budgets and explosions for granite.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:36 pm to
It's a topic I don't know much about - I'm completely igneous.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
26067 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:36 pm to


This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41679 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
Bay hasn't had a hit in a long time, other than 6 Underground on netflix. Plus I think he pissed off some Hollywood people with 13 Hours. He didn't directly name Hillary but it was obviously a critique of her.
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